About
Learn More about our progressive online community for the Granite State.

Create an account today (it's free and easy) and get started!
Menu

Make a New Account

Username:

Password:



Forget your username or password?


Search




Advanced Search


The Masthead
Managing Editor
Mike Hoefer

Editors
elwood
susanthe
William Tucker
The Roll, Etc.
Prog Blogs, Orgs & Alumni
Bank Slate
Betsy Devine
birch paper
Democracy for NH
Granite State Progress
Mike Caulfield
Miscellany Blue
Pickup Patriots
Re-BlueNH
Susan the Bruce
New Hampshire Labor News
Chaz Proulx: Right Wing Watch
Defending New Hampshire Public Education

Politicos & Punditry
The Burt Cohen Show
John Gregg
Landrigan
Pindell
Primary Monitor
Scala
Schoenberg
Spiliotes
NewsViewsBlues- Arnesen

Campaigns, Et Alia.
NH-Gov
- Jackie Cilley
- Maggie Hassan
NH-01
- Carol Shea-Porter
- Matthew Hancock
NH-02
- Ann McLane Kuster
NH-Senate
- D4: David Waters
- D9: Lee Nyquist
NH-Executive Council
- D2: Colin Van Ostern
- D4: Chris Pappas
- D5: Debora Pignatelli

ActBlue Hampshire
NHDP
DCCC
DSCC
DNC

National
Balloon Juice
billmon
Congress Matters
DailyKos
Digby
Eschaton
FiveThirtyEight
Hold Fast
Institute For Policy Studies
MyDD
Open Left
Senate Guru
Swing State Project
Talking Points Memo

50 State Blog Network
Alabama
Arizona
California
Colorado
Connecticut
Delaware
Florida
Idaho
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Louisiana
Maine
Maryland
Massachusetts
Michigan
Minnesota
Missouri
Missouri
Montana
Nebraska
Nevada
New Hampshire
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
North Carolina
North Dakota
Ohio
Oklahoma
Oregon
Rhode Island
Tennessee
Texas
Texas
Utah
Vermont
Virginia
Washington
West Virginia
Wisconsin

my letter against HB 176

by: TimothyHorrigan

Wed Feb 09, 2011 at 06:59:29 AM EST


I had a letter to the editor published in the Foster's Daily Democrat today (Wednesday,. Feb. 9), about HB 176, Greg Sorg's anti-student voting bill.  (The bill would also disenfrachise military personnel and some other non-students--- but it is directed at students.)

The letter itself is below the fold.  But first, I will say I do understand the fear that students might take over a town.  Even though non-students outnumber students in all of NH's college towns, it is true that a small group of students (or any element of the community) could thoeretically get together to win a municipal election.  The turnouts for those elections tend to be very small: e.g., on February 8, I went to the annual deliberative session for the Oyster River School District, which drew a grand total of 81 voters.  (We amended the budget slightly by a 51-30 vote.) But, the powers of local governments are strictly limited, terms of board members are usually staggered, and in any case students' opinions and priorities don't differ that much from other adults.

TimothyHorrigan :: my letter against HB 176
Here is my letter.  Doug DeDe, who I attack in the first paragraph or two, is an outspoken city councilor from Dover.  I am not sure what party, if any, he belongs to.

In response

To the editor: Douglas DeDe claims (in a Feb. 5 letter supporting an anti-student voting bill) that "there is nothing to prevent a local student who pays an electric bill in New Hampshire from voting on a national election while sending in an absentee-ballot to their 'hometown.'" Actually, RSA 659:34 and RSA 659:34-a of the New Hampshire lawbook make double voting a Class B felony, punishable by one to seven years' imprisonment.

The New Hampshire Secretary of State's and Attorney General's offices go to great efforts every election cycle to seek out voting fraud, and few if any cases of multiple voting have ever been found. Mr. DeDe admits as much when he says: "While there are no documented cases to my knowledge of such chicanery, its very possibility is enough to warrant a national (or state) requirement for presenting a valid state-issued identification to receive and cast a ballot."

What Mr. DeDe is saying is that we should take away a basic right from law-abiding citizens simply because it might hypothetically be abused. This would be grossly unfair- and it would also be illegal for the state of New Hampshire to enact HB 176 (the anti-student voting bill) before the Congress and a supermajority of the states get around to rescinding the 14th and 26th amendments, along with several other sections of the United States Constitution.

The United State Congress would also have to rescind the current federal voting-rights law before our legislature could pass HB 176. And, oh yeah, the voters of New Hampshire (student and nonstudent alike) would have to ratify an amendment to our own state constitution repealing (at a minimum) Articles 1, 2 and 11 of Part First (the Bill of Rights.)

In the meantime, aside from the fact that is grossly unconstitutional and a spectacularly bad idea, HB 176 has some technical issues. For example, there is no way to prove that a student who lives off-campus (e.g., UNH students who live in Dover) is in fact a student. Supervisors of the checklist don't know what a resident does for a living, and universities do not publish rosters of their student bodies.

Also, most students have jobs and some even own businesses: how would the supervisor distinguish between a working person who goes to school part time from a student who works part time?

State Rep. Timothy Horrigan
D-Durham

Tags: (All Tags)
Print Friendly View Send As Email

It Becomes Their Community Too (4.00 / 2)
I'm always amazed when people, and it usually are the Republicans on "conservatives," say that "students are taking over a town" by voting there.  

When you move into a community, you become part of that community.  If you're paying rent for an apartment or wherever you live, or you're buying food or going to a local theater or a shopping center, you're investing in the community.  

It doesn't matter whether you're a student going to school there or nearby, or you've moved there because of a job opportunity or to be with the person you love -- permanent or temporary -- you're part of the community.  

In addition, of course, we have the Constitutional right to vote wherever we call "home."  Home is where we live.  'Hometown" is usually where we were born or where we consider that we've grown up, but that usually wasn't our choice to begin with.  

I'd call the splash of voting limitations bills silly and purposeless if it wasn't that they are so demeaning and insulting of Americans who want to vote.  Why are there so many Republicans who hate our Constitution or distrust our people?  

[I'm a former has-been House member and State Senator, but I keep "Rep." on my ID name for easy reference of previous posts.]


Why are there so many people who distrust and why do they (4.00 / 1)
congregate in the Republican party?  Well, it seems that a lot of nascent political leaders have put a lot of effort into attracting fearful, insecure and mistrustful people into the Republican fold.  After all that's what the "security" and "protectionist" agenda is about.  And the people who respond?  Well, in addition to being fearful and insecure, I'd guess they're jealous of people who aren't, especially the youth whom they perceive to have been "spoiled." There doesn't have to be a factual basis for jealousy.  People who fear getting older can be jealous of youth who aren't there yet.

[ Parent ]
Would you email me a copy of the letter? (0.00 / 0)
Thanks

 "The future is not something to be predicted, it's something to be achieved,"  unattributed aphorism




Also, people who hunger for a stratified society in which they can (4.00 / 2)
be better than someone else, are still casting about for a criterion that's not been ruled politically incorrect.  Citizenship as a privilege is what they've latched on to most recently.  The problem is that the role of citizen isn't quite exclusive enough.  So, they're trying to exclude some people and they youth, who don't retaliate, are a convenient target.


May 19th@ New England College!

Connect with BH
     
Powered by: SoapBlox