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Policy Straw Poll: Military Spending

by: Mike Caulfield

Thu Jul 26, 2007 at 19:20:08 PM EDT


To review, les rules:

1) 200 words or less

2) Starts with either the phrase "I am the only candidate who" or "Unlike Candidates X, Y, and Z, I" (must be at least three candidates you differ from).

3) Must contain a policy point in the first sentence.

The point? To tease out the policy differences in a campaign where the media has not done that.

The reason? First, we have to decide between these candidates, and while policy is not always the major differentiator, it does play a role. Second, every four years the primary acts as testbed for policy proposals. It's incredibly important we not make it merely a parade of personalities. Tsongas may have lost in 1992, but he got the issue of the deficit on the map.

The third and most important reason? Engaging the public in policy debates makes America stronger.

Want to build a better campaign? Come up with some soundbites.

Want to build a better citizen? Engage them in the policy debate. Let them know the why AND the how.

To the extent the different campaigns have done that below, thank you. You guys rock.

So, without further ado, in the order received....

From the Obama campaign:

I am the only candidate to lay out a comprehensive vision for how to rebuild the military and responsibly use it to keep America safe in the 21st century.  Today, our forces are overstretched and inadequately equipped after fighting a war that should never have been authorized and should never have been waged.  Therefore, our armed forces need to be made ready to confront the complex threats of the 21st century.  As President, I will commit the resources to ensure our armed forces are prepared for these 21st century threats, beginning with a top-to-bottom reassessment of all weapons programs in light of current needs, gaps in the field, and potential threat scenarios.  That means providing service members with first-rate equipment, armor, incentives, and training-including in foreign languages and other critical skills.  As President, I will add 65,000 soldiers to the Army and 27,000 Marines. At the same time, we need to improve mission readiness for the National Guard.  This century's threats are as dangerous and in many ways more complex than those we have confronted in the past.  Restoring American leadership requires a military prepared to meet these new challenges.  As President, I will ensure that our defense remains second to none.

From the Gravel campaign:

I am the only candidate besides Representative Kucinich who will actually reduce military spending.  America spends more on defense than the rest of the world put together.  This in spite of the fact that our educational and healthcare systems are broken, the physical infrastructure of our nation is under funded, and we are not dealing with climate change and the looming energy crisis.

There is no limit to the demands of the military industrial complex, evidenced by calls for increased military spending on top of already gargantuan levels.  In my opinion, the other Democratic candidates, with the exception of Dennis Kucinich, are all tied to the continuation of this system.

This is why I have proposed the National Initiative for Democracy which will break the hammerlock of special interests by making voters lawmakers.  By allowing American voters the opportunity to make binding laws directly, we can reorder our priorities.  With the National Initiative for Democracy, we can have better education, affordable healthcare for all Americans, an end to unnecessary foreign wars, and the ability to solve the critical issues facing our nation.

From the Kucinich campaign:

I am the only candidate to call for at least a 15% reduction in the bloated Pentagon budget. The Pentagon has never passed an independent audit. They have over 1100 separate accounting systems; people don?t know where the money goes. We've looked at waste and fraud, there's no question we could save a minimum of 15%, with no affect on national security. There's waste building weapons in outer space; new nuclear weapons; a missile shield when even those who have studied it admit there's fraud involved in development. This has nothing to do with fighting terror, or making us more secure. By spending more on the military than the rest of the world combined we continue one of the great frauds on Americans that we?re more secure by spending more for the military while we ignore the other needs. War doesn?t make us strong. When we shift the paradigm of this country towards peace, then we start to have the resources which must be there for education, health care, renewable energy, a healthy environment, and clean elections. Any investment we make in the people to rebuild their faith in themselves and their government is an issue of national security too.

From the Edwards campaign:

I am the only candidate who has proposed a bold approach to end not just wasteful military spending but to reform our entire budget for national security. I have proposed creating a national security budget to save taxpayer money and have more effective military spending. Today, dozens of agencies perform overlapping tasks. There is no central, overall accounting of all security activities performed by all relevant agencies. We have nuclear proliferation programs in the Defense, State, and Energy departments, and more than 15 different security assistance programs, running out of both the State Department and the Pentagon. As president, I will create a national security budget that will include all security programs at the Pentagon and the Department of Energy, as well as our homeland security, intelligence, and foreign affairs agencies--which will eliminate wasteful and counterproductive overlaps, and gather all of our resources behind a unified strategy. I will also direct my Secretary of Defense to launch a modern-day equivalent of the famous Truman Committee from the 1940?s, with a comprehensive, tough review of fraud, waste, and abuse. Finally, almost half of Defense Department contracts are now awarded on a noncompetitive basis, giving companies like Halliburton millions of dollars. As president, I will completely overhaul the rules governing privatization to save taxpayer dollars, put an end to cronyism, and better protect the United States.

From the Dodd campaign:

"I am the only candidate with a plan that will both end the war in Iraq and redirect the billions that we are spending on war to improving military readiness.  In particular, my plan will help fund our National Guard units, which have experienced longer deployments and equipment shortages due to the war.  I will also use the funds currently being spent in Iraq to invest in domestic priorities, such as a plan to provide universal, affordable health care.

"In addition, I strongly believe that American defense jobs should be kept on American soil. That is why I have worked to reduce the use of so-called "offset contracts" in military contracting ? a practice by which foreign governments purchase major weapon systems from U.S. companies, but only if the American company agrees to buy goods or services from that country."

From the Richardson Campaign:

I am the only major Presidential candidate who believes that we must remove all our troops from Iraq.  There should be no residual US forces left in Iraq.  Our continued presence in Iraq only fuels the insurgency, strengthens Al Qaeda, and enables the Iraqi factions to delay making the hard political choices needed to end the civil war. Our troops have become targets. There is no military solution in Iraq.

We must begin the process of cutting spending on the Iraq war.  We are coming up on half a trillion dollars spent there. The money we are spending in Iraq needs to be spent on rebuilding our military, restoring our troops? morale and readiness, and domestic issues here at home such as health care.


From the Biden Campaign:

I am the only candidate who has made good on this commitment:  so long as we have a single soldier in Iraq, we will make sure he or she has the best protection this country can provide, which is why I voted for the emergency spending bill for Iraq. The bill provides money to buy Mine Resistant vehicles that can cut the loss of lives and limbs from roadside bombs -- responsible for 70 percent of American deaths in Iraq -- by two-thirds.  Meanwhile all of my opponents either voted against or opposed the bill. In fact, I have been leading the effort to get more MRAPs on the ground in Iraq as soon as possible. I was able to add $1.5 billion to that bill so that we can get an additional 2500 vehicles to Iraq by the end of the year.  I am working every day to end the war responsibly. But we owe people the truth: even if we forced George Bush to end the war tomorrow, it will take at least a year to get all our troops out.  Meanwhile, it would be unconscionable not to protect them. 

From the Clinton campaign:

Hillary is concerned about the billions of dollars being spent on outside military contractors. She believes there should be better accountability and controls with the Pentagon?s budget and that we need to reform the Pentagon's acquisition system to rein in weapons systems costs and spending on outside contractors. We need to find the right mix between legacy systems that our service members currently use and newer programs that will allow us to keep our technological edge. Every challenge we face begins with the biggest challenge: restoring our leadership by once again valuing alliances, respecting our values, and understanding that American strength is more than just a show of force. Hillary will also end the process of giving no bid contracts to outside contractors. She believes government contracts should be transparent, open to intense competition and accessible on-line. According to the Project on Government Oversight, at least 45 percent of the $329 billion the federal government spent in fiscal year 2004 was awarded without competition. She would post every contract online, inviting interested citizens to scrutinize them, and cut the number of contractors working for the federal government by 500,000 over the next ten years, saving $10 to $18 billion a year.
Mike Caulfield :: Policy Straw Poll: Military Spending
Alright, have at it.

Next week, the topic is "Education".

NOTE REGARDING BIDEN: I left them out of the poll by mistake. Sorry guys. I can't fix it now, but if you like Biden's, give a woot in the comments.

Poll
Which was most compelling as a policy statement?
Obama
Gravel
Kucinich
Dodd
Edwards
Richardson

Results

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From Hillary (0.00 / 0)
We set a rule last week that the paragraph had to begin with the phrase "I am the only". Talking to the Clinton campaign, they expressed they couldn't provide it in that format, but they did send us something substantial, so I'll add it here:

Hillary is concerned about the billions of dollars being spent on outside military contractors. She believes there should be better accountability and controls with the Pentagon?s budget and that we need to reform the Pentagon's acquisition system to rein in weapons systems costs and spending on outside contractors. We need to find the right mix between legacy systems that our service members currently use and newer programs that will allow us to keep our technological edge. Every challenge we face begins with the biggest challenge: restoring our leadership by once again valuing alliances, respecting our values, and understanding that American strength is more than just a show of force. Hillary will also end the process of giving no bid contracts to outside contractors. She believes government contracts should be transparent, open to intense competition and accessible on-line. According to the Project on Government Oversight, at least 45 percent of the $329 billion the federal government spent in fiscal year 2004 was awarded without competition. She would post every contract online, inviting interested citizens to scrutinize them, and cut the number of contractors working for the federal government by 500,000 over the next ten years, saving $10 to $18 billion a year.




Oh, what the hell (4.00 / 1)
I added it up top too -- let the people decide for themselves ---



[ Parent ]
Hillary's vagueries and the wiggle-room strategy. (0.00 / 0)
"Hillary is concerned . . . She [Hillary] believes . . . ."  Is this any way for a candidate for President to talk?  The only firm committment this woman seems willing to make is to "study . . . consider . . . weigh . . . examine . . . ."  Only an ego as big as Alaska could expect people trust a candidate who will not take a firm position and keep it.  Hillary, you're not the only one who is "concerned."  America is "concerned" that you are only out for yourself.

[ Parent ]
Trimming technique-- (0.00 / 0)
Ignore everything a political candidate claims to "believe."  It isn't possible to argue with what someone believes or that they even believe it. 
Belief can't be proved to be either true or false, so why bother?

[ Parent ]
Nothing from the Biden Campaign? (0.00 / 0)
after all the Biden-love we had this week?

That's unfortunate.


woops` (0.00 / 0)
did I miss it before, or did it magically appear after the original post?

[ Parent ]
Nope -- my mistake (0.00 / 0)
I inadvertently left them out.

Fixed, except for the poll which seems to be locked.



[ Parent ]
Would have done him a favor. (0.00 / 0)
Why, when everyone's talking about bringing the troops home is Biden talking about sending more vehicles?
Guess he hasn't seen this video

[ Parent ]
How many dead are acceptable? (0.00 / 0)
The reason Senator Biden pushed for the MRAP's for our troops is, even if the war were to end tomorrow morning, our troops would still be left vulnerable to IED's for a long time.  Military experts have stated that it would take about one year to withdraw 160,000 soldiers and marines.  The Mine Resistant vehicles will reduce IED's casualties by 70%.  Is one million dollars a piece too much to pay to save our soldiers from death and injury? Do you make the connection now, or do you need this explained to you again?

[ Parent ]
no need to be so condescending (0.00 / 0)
As for how many dead are acceptable - let's go back to the first NH debate.

BLITZER: Congressman Kucinich, if you were president of the United States and the intelligence community said to you, "We know where Osama bin Laden is. He's in Pakistan. We've got the specific target. But he's only going to be there for 20 minutes," you've got to give the order yes or no to take him out with a Hellfire missile, but it's going to kill some innocent civilians at the same time: What would be your decision?

BIDEN: It would depend on how many innocent civilians...

Perhaps only some of the dead matter?

NH Kucinich Campaign


[ Parent ]
Slipshod extension (0.00 / 0)
Borrow a copy of "Fowlers" and look up the article on "slipshod extension."  Changing the focus of discourse or debate is no different than concession.

[ Parent ]
as an overall impression: (4.00 / 1)
This was a VERY good topic.  It has shown the clearest differences in the candidates positions yet.

Of all the candidates, I think Kucinich gets the point best.  The military industrial complex needs to be reigned in... we need to stop wasting our money on cold war inspired weapons systems that won't help us in this new age of international terror.

Obama's response actually scares me.  Does he actually think we need to spend MORE money on the military?  Has he lost it?  We spend more than the rest of the world COMBINED.  Maybe there's a teeny bit of waste that we should be cutting?

Edwards seems to be trying to get there... but he seems to be tentative to outright call for a reduction in military spending.  I like his calls for tougher oversight and accountability.  Clinton seems to be leaning in that direction too, but to a lesser extent than Edwards.

Dodd and Richardson, sadly, seem to have missed the point.  We're not talking about Iraq, we're talking about defense spending in general.  I hope their defense platform includes more than a plan to get out of Iraq.

As for Gravel:  I hate his National Initiative idea in general, so I don't like his response.


Dodd's second paragraph (4.00 / 1)
is actually quite good I think. I like learning about things like offset contracts...



[ Parent ]
yeah... (0.00 / 0)
that bit is good...

[ Parent ]
So I like the details they get around too (0.00 / 0)
Want to know more about offset contracts ala Dodd's statement.

In theory I like Edwards Security Budget -- but it reminds me of the mangling of the DHS -- the question is whether such efforts are doomed to failure or just dommed to failure under Republicans. I'd like to hear a defense of why we won't fall into the DHS FEMA sort of thing.

And the truth is at heart I'm most aligned with Gravel here -- I want out of the world policeman game, I want out of the dozens upon dozens of countries in which we're stationed. I really don't see the need to exercise American power in that way anymore, and wish we'd through our resources into the ECONOMIC battle that now shapes our future.



Thank You (4.00 / 2)
to the candidates and campaigns for doing this. We are honored by your presence here, and I mean that.

Now I'll have at it:

Form:

Obama: praise for being first, for not replicating the ugly "top tier" phrase, for having a hyperlink in the first line. Well done.

Gravel: "the only candidate besides Kucinich".  A dignified concession.

Dodd: also has a hyperlink in the first line. Nice.

Richardson: "I am the only major Presidential candidate".  As annoying as last week's "top tier".

Clinton: when the frontrunner refuses to follow the guidelines, it degrades the exercise, and it lessens the impact of this series.  That is a form of campaigning.

Substance

Obama: "a top-to-bottom reassessment of all weapons programs".  Yes, please, and add to that a top-to-bottom reassessment of our military bases worldwide (vide Chalmers Johnson's Sorrows of Empire.)

Gravel:

America spends more on defense than the rest of the world put together.  This in spite of the fact that our educational and healthcare systems are broken, the physical infrastructure of our nation is under funded, and we are not dealing with climate change and the looming energy crisis.
Amen.

Kucinich: "I am the only candidate to call for at least a 15% reduction in the bloated Pentagon budget. The Pentagon has never passed an independent audit." Sounds good to me.

Edwards: Unfair to him, but the first thing I thought of reading his was the dreaded Dept. of Homeland Security.  I also wonder if unifying the various depts will make it harder to pass the budget in Congress.  In general, though, I agree with the principle.

Dodd: focused more on wasteful spending in the war rather than the Pentagon, but I was intrigued by the second paragraph.

Richardson: like Dodd minus the second paragraph.

Biden: nothing really on military spending beyond the immediate war, and a continued attempt at defining the candidacy by virtue of turning the funding bill conventional wisdom on its head.

Clinton: I admire the emphasis on bringing back competition, but no mention is made at all about the size of the budget, or the idea that there's a problem there.  "We're wide open for taxpayer-funded business, but you'll have to compete for that contract this time," it said to me.

birch, finch, beech


Biden (4.00 / 1)
One thing I've gotten about Biden is his desire to fund things like Mine-Resistant vehicles is I think heartfelt (I think you really just can't underestimate having a son who will soon ship off there...)

So he's wrong here mostly on political tactics, because he doesn't get how this has to be done. I think he's also overly hawkish.

But I do think when he talks about MRV it's more than cover.



[ Parent ]
Focus on Winning (0.00 / 0)
New Hampshire Democrats should think about which candidate will draw the most votes in the general election.  Joe Biden is the most conservative of the Democratics with a voting record that will appeal to Independants and even many Republicans.  A CNN poll conducted last week concluded that 67% of the respondants indicated they planned to change party affiliation before the general election.  We don't need another election decided by the Supreme Court.  You can blame George Bush if you want, but ask yourself why the vote was so close?  I think the answer is, the Democratic has strayed too far from its roots in an effort to champion socially progressive causes.  That's all well and good, but is also a formula for defeat.  I believe only Joe Biden will appeal to non-Democrats in numbers sufficient to win without need of recounts or legal maneuvering.

[ Parent ]
Agree! (0.00 / 0)
I couldn't agree more...the bottom line is, the Democrats are a shoe-in to the White House if they put up the correct candidate. It would be a nightmare for the Democratic nomination to go to someone who is not prepared or experienced enough to revamp foreign policy and get us out of Iraq.  That said, I think Senator Biden is the best man for the job. He is realistic, practical, experienced, and passionate.  As someone who I would consider a "moderate" Democrat, I think he appeals to a majority of voters and would draw a huge amount of Republican votes as well

[ Parent ]
Competition-- (4.00 / 1)
It's an attractive concept when we're thinking of sports and human endurance because the interaction improves performance.  However, when we're interested in the excellence of a specialized product, competition is not relevant.  Picasso can't get better as a result of cheap imitations.

The last thing we need is more manufacturers trying to make a profit off of military hardware.  Even though the military/industrial complex has morphed into a system where our civilian industries and commerce have become dependent on the threat of military force to level their playing fields, the growing percentage of military production as a component of GDP is still a concern.

There was a time when our military hardware, including naval assets, was put into dead storage when it wasn't needed.  Some people considered this a waste and came up with new uses for our military in peace time.  Now that's not considered exciting enough, so we've got a never-ending war on terror to justify building more useless stuff and, because it is useless, it doesn't really matter whether or not it works (which is why we are leaving unexploded munitions all over the globe to be triggered at random).

One might be tempted to argue that if it doesn't much matter whether or not it works, why worry?  Because producing shoddy stuff is destructive of the human spirit. 


[ Parent ]
useless stuff??? (0.00 / 0)
Please tell me we aren't suggesting that Mine Resistant Vehicles are "useless stuff". 

I've been in iraq, I've been the victim of 3 IED attacks and witnessed over 50; these vehicles do save lives and Senator Biden is right - as long as there are soldiers in Iraq we should have this technology.  I shudder at the thought of returning to those roads, but I would feel a lot better knowing that I would be conducting patrols in an MRV and NOT a HWMVEE.

To that point - Senator Biden is not a proponent of staying in Iraq, and I hear his logic.  It took me over 2 weeks just to get home on R&R - there is no simple solution and there sure as heck isn't a quick withdrawal of troops on the horizon.

Does anyone REALLY listen to what these candidates say? You asked an open-ended question about military spending; Senator Biden answered with what he believes is the most pressing issue in military spending today.  I think he is on point.

Leading democratic candidates voted down this bill, leading candidates talk the rhetoric of what they would do, but the reality is they what they can't do.

Ask yourself honestly - can you see Clinton or Obama on the world stage arranging diplomatic solutions that ensure the politcal success of the Iraqi democracy? Sure they say they will bring the troops home, and then what will happen?

No other candidate EXCEPT Senator Biden has a plan that makes sense.  No other candidate has a plan that addresses the political and socioeconomic dynamics that shape Iraqi culture - and honestly- no other candidate has the experience to make it happen.

Senator Biden's focused comments demonstrate his passion for "doing the right thing" isn't that what we all want our president to do?  He will bring the troops home, I believe that.  In doing so he will reduce the riduculous military spending, but not today, not while troops are still there and need his help - that is the message I got from his comments - that is the message I hear in his campaign.  What other candidate can stand their ground and say that?

Joe Knows! and he gets my vote!


[ Parent ]
All of these answers, (0.00 / 0)
and all of these candidates, have distinct positives and negatives.  I don't think I'm alone in thinking that this is going to be a very tough decision.

Where do we go from here?


why switch back to single voting? (0.00 / 0)
I like the approval voting from last week. I was going to vote for Edwards and Kucinich, and maybe Obama (I think he was too vague in the statement, relied on the linked op-ed to cover it), but I had to vote for one, so Kucinich was it.

Dodd, Biden, and Richardson basically ignored the question. Hillary once again refused to participate by the rules.

Go 'Bama!


I liked it too, but people got confused (0.00 / 0)
I thought I was the only one that actually voted for two.

Good to know, though. Maybe we'll bring it back.



[ Parent ]
Tight race (0.00 / 0)
Once again I used my pseudo-scientific scale, but I eliminated Passability because the president can pretty much do whatever he/she wants with the military. There might be a fight on some cuts, but it's pretty easy to pressure legislators to cut waste.

The scale is Ambition, Feasibility, "Gut" (which stands in for passability in this case), and Concreteness, five points each, 20 a perfect score. Only four points separate the top and bottom.

Obama -- 13. He needed more detail and more ambition to take it.

Gravel -- 12. Ambitious indeed, but neither feasible nor terribly concrete.

Kucinich -- 16. The winner -- for providing a target and the steps to get there, while still promising security.

Edwards -- 16. Tied with Kucinich and more consistent across the scores, but it struck me that his plan is already in place, except for the visibility aspect.

Dodd -- 13. Not concrete enough, and the Guard, while an issue, wouldn't be the first thing I mentioned.

Richardson -- N/A. He didn't answer.

Biden -- N/A. Closer than Richardson, but off topic.

Clinton -- 14. Solid plan, but I needed more detail.


Military Spending - It Ain't Rocket Science! (0.00 / 0)
Bush got us into a forseeable disaster in Iraq. Military spending flowed from the flawed foreign policy.

Bush has escalated the debacle from (a) toppling Saddam ... (b) to an occupation ... (c) to tamping down a Civil War. b and c are most responsible for getting thousands of our troops killed, maimed, or fitted for prosthetics.

We sent our best youth and loved ones into hell. We keep sending them. We must protect them while Congress incessantly exhibits its impotence to reverse Bush's policy. The troops didn't sign up for years in a hell hole, contrary to GOP stalwarts' rationalizations to the contrary. They signed up to protect the national security interests of the United States. Iraq posed no imminent threat to us. 

Iraqis are unable to distinguish favorably among the loss and maiming of their loved ones by Saddam's brutality, the lunatics conducting the Civil War, and our munitions. Many link the latter two. Its a perception thing. Dead is dead. Killed is killed. Orphaned is orphaned. Maimed is maimed. Old homes are lost; new homes may or may not be found in Syria, Jordan, Egypt, etc. 

A better investment of munitions and military prowess would be to end the Genocide in Darfur. God knows that we are no longer widely perceived as heroes or humanitarians championing the underdogs of the world. The Janjeweed are begging for us to kill them and have been earning the opportunity daily for quite a while. Hell, we might even earn back the respect and affection of our allies and third world populations. 

The only Democratic Presidential candidate who pushes substantively for (a) protecting our troops with MRAPs, and (b) ending the Civil War by parceling up Iraq into 3 Regions (the Bosnia model) --- Kurds, Shiite, and Sunni ---and sharing the oil wealth, and (c) sending troops to Darfur to end Genocide, is Joe Biden. At least Joe doesn't crap us around how money might be reallocated post-Iraq. Post-Iraq is nowhere in sight.

And to all Presidential candidates of both parties: Please stop using healthcare as a pop culture political tool. All of you are relying on tax incentives and some form of a Health Care Insurance Industry Proliferation and Protection regimen to provide a solution to our cost crisis. It won't. An accountable, well-planned Single Payer Universal Healthcare System is our best course ... and there is no responsible, cost-effective alternative. 

 


The Right Vote (0.00 / 0)
Senator Biden made the right vote.  As someone who has opposed this war from the beginning, I understand the strong desire we all have to get out of Iraq as soon as possible.  The unfortunate reality is, without a viable plan and without Republican support, it is unlikely that our soldiers are going to be coming home soon.  Biden's vote helped give our soldiers what they need while they are there, and the new MRAP vehicles are vital to saving many lives.  Hopefully, the rest of Congress can back his plan to get us out of Iraq so we no longer have to debate whether or not to fund our soldiers as they remain bogged down in this horrible quagmire.  Until that time comes, however, we need to keep as many of them alive and as safe as possible.

Steve J.


Well said, Steve J. (0.00 / 0)
Steve J's comments reflect my sentiments exactly.  A President must possess the ability to deal with contingencies.  Biden's 34 years in the Senate have taught him to think like a President.  Sorry to say, Hillary, Barack and John think like candidates.

[ Parent ]
Add another vote for Biden. (0.00 / 0)
Since you are having problems with changing the poll itself, please consider this a vote for Joe Biden.

I can't believe you forgot Biden in your poll! (0.00 / 0)
I have to give kudos to Biden for his hard work getting our troops the MRAPs.  I recently read a military blog where they were discussing Biden's fight to get these vehicles to them, saying before he got involved nothing was getting accomplished.

I also give kudos to Biden for not playing politics with our troops. 
The last funding bill became a political battleground.
You either voted NO to win votes from the Dem base - or you voted to give troops MRAPs and other funding needed.

Biden was upfront about his vote.  He announced the day before how he was going to vote, and why.
Not a peep came out of Hilbama until the very end of that vote.  Why people continue to think that Hilbama will provide leadership, is beyond me.  All I ever see from them is Pandering. 

Biden has proven over and over that he has the knowledge and experience to get our country out of the mess that this administration has put us in. 


Go Biden! (0.00 / 0)
I am usually a more supportive/less trash-talking blogger, but I have to agree that Clinton and Obama are just spewing open-ended promises without any backbone to win the election and if they are to, will have alot of trouble making things happen because they don't have any PLANS.  Barak's constant reminder that he did not vote for the war says nothing about what he will do to get us OUT of the war--that is the burden he will get left with as president whether he voted for it or not! And Clinton is the same; "this is George Bush's war"...maybe so, but its going to be your war if you are president, so what does that matter?? what are you going to DO about it?

Biden has a clear, practical, realistic plan, and he is the man for the job. If we want to do what is best for our troops and give them the honor and respect they deserve for doing their jobs and putting their lives at risk to pursue a president's vendetta, despite their personal feelings, then we ought to elect a president who pledges to keep them safe and bring them home responsibly.


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Biden is head and shoulders above the rest of the field... (0.00 / 0)
On military spending, Joe Biden understands that our people are at risk every hour of every day while they are over in Iraq and Afghanistan.

He will consistently vote the money to give our troops the protection and support they need.

And when it comes to Iraq, Joe Biden will do the hard work necessary to end the war in a way that will keep the situation from dissolving into chaos when American troops are drawn down.  The Biden plan is the only plan that confronts the current reality in Iraq.  The solutions in Joe Biden's plan are pragmatic and fully implementable, and his plan will save lives while allowing us to reach our policy objectives in that region.

No other candidate has the experience, the ability, or the political courage to make the hard decisions in both foreign and domestic policy to ensure a brighter American future.  Joe Biden is the right choice in 2008.

Jeff C

leikec@yahoo.com


BIDEN (0.00 / 0)
Biden is the only candidate who openly (despite the political repurcussions) voted for and spoke out in favor of the Supplemental Bill to provide mine resistant vehicles to my COUSIN and BEST FRIEND who are serving in Iraq. 

He is courageous, compassionate and a real leader.

Hillary and Obama waited and waited then finally voted, both NO.  How despicable.  This is where the Democratic Party gets the bad rap...people like these.  Don't let them win the nomination.

Please vote for Joe Biden in 2008, for my COUSIN, my BEST FRIEND, and our COUNTRY.



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