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Hillary Accuses Someone Rhyming with Show-bama Of Push Polling and Voter Supression Techniques

by: Mike Caulfield

Tue Dec 04, 2007 at 06:44:24 AM EST


I'm on a lot of distribution lists, for campaigns Republican and Democratic. But the following letter I received from the Hillary campaign is possibly the most negative fundraiser campaign email of the season:

Dear Michael,

I wanted to let you know immediately about reports our campaign has received about possible dirty campaign tactics in Iowa and New Hampshire -- and ask for your help.

In Iowa, we have heard reports that Hillary supporters are getting calls that tell them incorrect caucus locations. Supporters have also told us about push polls -- when they tell the pollster they support Hillary, they are given negative talking points about her and asked which attacks are the most effective.

In both Iowa and New Hampshire, we have heard that Obama staffers are berating Hillary supporters on the phone with negative attacks against her.

The letter, signed by Patti Doyle and titled "The Dirty Tricks Are Starting", goes on repeating a number of narratives passed on to them from Hillary supporters accusing Obama's staff of berating Iowa supporters, and, indirectly, of giving caucus voters wrong locations and push polling.

There's a bit of a tap dance here -- Ms. Doyle never comes out and say directly that it's Obama's people with the misinformation, although it's clear who they are accusing -- in the anecdotes that follow, it is Obama's people in the starring role, as in this sentence which is one of the few bolded in the letter:

I even had some guy call me from the Obama camp and start bullying me over the phone when I said I supported Hillary.

Like I said, there's a bit of a tap dance, but not much.

What's missing from the letter? Any credible news source for the attacks. Any named source.

Of all the emails I have got this season, none has made accusations of this breadth and magnitude of a primary opponent. Time will tell if the campaign chooses to pursue these allegations, or simply use them for fundraising purposes to slur candidates.

But this, combined with the investigation of Obama's kindergarten record yesterday point to a campaign engaged in two-fisted battle, with a surprising tone-deafness to the shrill transparency of their techniques.

Full letter below the fold.

Mike Caulfield :: Hillary Accuses Someone Rhyming with Show-bama Of Push Polling and Voter Supression Techniques
Dear Michael,

I wanted to let you know immediately about reports our campaign has received about possible dirty campaign tactics in Iowa and New Hampshire -- and ask for your help.

In Iowa, we have heard reports that Hillary supporters are getting calls that tell them incorrect caucus locations. Supporters have also told us about push polls -- when they tell the pollster they support Hillary, they are given negative talking points about her and asked which attacks are the most effective.

In both Iowa and New Hampshire, we have heard that Obama staffers are berating Hillary supporters on the phone with negative attacks against her.

Here is one report we got from someone who received a push poll in Iowa:
I do want to let you know, Saturday afternoon, I had a phony pollster call from "an independently owned polling service" ... With my first choice as Hillary and undecided 2nd choice. I was asked if I approved of the direction the country was taking. The question then shifted. "Which of these three options best defines your candidate? 1) Inconsistent on major issues. 2) A weak contender in the general election. 3) Not able to bring change to Washington." I told them I would not answer because it was not a polling question ... I asked where they were calling from. Repeatedly the response was that they were calling from the United States and it was paid for by an independently owned polling firm.
Here is another report from a letter to the editor in an Iowa paper:
The bullying coming from some of the other Democratic candidates is childlike and not what the Democrats stand for. I even had some guy call me from the Obama camp and start bullying me over the phone when I said I supported Hillary. He started arguing and got aggressive on the phone. I did tell him his behavior was not appropriate.
And here is a report from New Hampshire:
When my father informed them that he was supporting Hillary they proceeded to talk to him about her failure to reform health care when she was First Lady. He said it sounded like they were reading something that was already prepared.
These reports are invaluable to our campaign! It is vitally important that we know about any unethical tactics our opponents may use. And as one of our best supporters in New Hampshire, you are in the best position to keep us informed. If you or any of your family, friends, or neighbors receive negative push poll calls or any misleading information about the election, please contact our New Hampshire headquarters immediately to let them know. Here is contact information:

New Hampshire for Hillary
Email: newhampshire@hillaryclinton.com
Phone: 603-782-4640

Thank you for helping us make sure this election is a fair one, and for everything you do for Hillary.

Sincerely,

PSD
Patti Solis Doyle
Campaign Manager
Hillary for President

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"It was just a joke!" (0.00 / 0)
I just heard Mark Penn say that the kindergarten reference in the press release was just a joke.  Strange.  Really strange.    
The campaign has been very well run but it is giving off strong vibes of nervousness.  

Referring to the press release as being a joke- reminds me of kids in junior high school who insult you then quickly follow with "can't you take a joke".

If it was a joke, then it was a stupid thing to do in a press release.  

I don't think it was.

If it was a sincere attempt to call the kettle black, it was just a stupid move to make.


Just because. (0.00 / 0)
I'm beginning to feel really ornery.

What kind of mother even considers using a school child's essay against a grown man?  The most charitable explanation is that Hillary didn't know, that she'd a delegater and didn't know what was being sent out in her name.

But then one remembers that being pro children is a high priority and one begins to wonder what the First Lady of the United States did when she learned, from international relief agencies' assessments, that the embargo on Iraq was causing many children (maybe as many as a million) to die because of a lack of nutrition, basic inoculations, and the lingering effects of depleted uranium contamination.

Yes, I know it was all Saddam Hussein's fault that the embargo was in place.  Because he hadn't disarmed, all his people had to suffer.  But, you see, we now know that, in fact, Saddam Hussein had done as ordered and got rid of his weapons.  So what were the children of Iraq being punished for?  That Saddam Hussein had lost credibility?  And then we elect George W. Bush and Saddam Hussein's lack of credibility justifies the invasion of the country, the bombardment of its infra-structure, and the deaths of more than a million men, women and children, at least?  And the authorization of this invasion and occupation wasn't the most colossal blunder of the modern age?

Strange as it seems to me, I am actually more outraged by the destruction of water wells and distribution lines in far western Al Anbar province in the first days of the invasion, (documented by a U.N. survey team) which had the result of leaving three million sheep without water!  Why would we do that?  Why would the U.S. Air Force bomb water wells and distribution lines in an area where almost no people lived and there were no military assets?
Were we trying to destroy the tribesmen's livelihood?  Why?


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I got this, too (4.00 / 2)
and I'm an Obama supporter. It's just a sign of desperation. Even looking at the diaries, the Hillary supporters put ones up attacking Obama rather than highlighting Hillary. There was one where the writer kept repeating about numbers of uninsured under Obama's plan, and there's one today, I see.

Hillary's leads are narrowing and her people are getting desperate.

The only mildly aggressive phone call I got was an Edwards supporter trying to persuade me to back Edwards after I said I'm supporting Obama. That was annoying.

This is definitely the Carville '90s playbook. Dirt. Attack. Lie. Retract. Here we go again.


Poll Trolls & Scorched Earth (4.00 / 2)
Has any one ever doubted for a second that once Hillary couldn't ride the magic carpet of meaningless poll data, that she and her "Blackwater band of political consultants" would jump from the Aladin's carpet to the Bush/Cheney Carpet Bomber!

Not this kid.

Hillary has a "1000 yard stare" of the politcal variety. Everything she knows of, is framed in, is about, is a battle for the causes she champions.

Her words:

but I have said for months that I would much rather be attacking Republicans and attacking problems of our country because ultimately that's what I want to do as president.

This attitude may have worked in 2004, but my sense is that most of America is fed up with attacks and defenses. The war has made Americans battle weary. I am not suggesting that America has succumbed to pacifism completely, but that a tone of reconciliation has its greatest traction, right now.

What Obama has branded as conventional politics or textbook politics has brought us to this moment. Americans are offered a choice to continue on this tired trail of tears or take Robert Frost's suggestion and run with it.

As Hillary, under the ill conceived strategy depoloyed by Mark Penn and Howard Wolfson, hurls the Hail Mary; we should all watch carefully the offensive style of play, as it develops.

Hillary/Penn want you to agree that "it has to be this way". They are trying to exacerbate fears of "dirty politics" with shadowy images of Rove and Sununu.
They are trying to pull your reference "back to the future".

If America chooses to follow along on this nostalgic trip, reminding us of the good 'ol days and the promise it might have for us.

Notice how Hilary/Penn have meticulously left the hienous underbelly of the Bush/Clinton/BushCheney years exposed, exactly enough, to get you to run to her, out of fear.

I will choose to believe in the best nature of America, the "sleeping giant", so I will persist being a hope monger. I must, because the alternative is to become what I know to be worse, a fear monger.

BLOG ON!


SGS is Jack Mitchell of Lowell, MA. The symbolism of the "sleeping giant" is based on my HOPE for America.


I got this too (4.00 / 1)
The part that cracked me up was ""And as one of our best supporters in New Hampshire..." if that's true then her campaign is in big trouble because I support Edwards.

standing on the sidelines looking for a reason to enter the fray.

E-mail Fiasco & Happy B-Day, Honey (0.00 / 0)
How is it that Obama has been getting slapped for mailers going to "Current Resident", ect.,yet the Clinton/Penn team can send out e-mails arbitrarily.

How did Clinton/Penn get these e-mail addresses, anyways? Did they come over from the DCCC list swap when Bill wished his wife a "Happy Birthday"?

That would be textbook, circa 2000.

SGS is Jack Mitchell of Lowell, MA. The symbolism of the "sleeping giant" is based on my HOPE for America.


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That "Happy Birthday" thing annoyed me, too. (0.00 / 0)


Cube-farm drone by day, Obama volunteer organizer by night.

[ Parent ]
BH/HuffPo Poll (4.00 / 2)
Someone should forward the new "Have you been polled" Poll co-sponsored by BH & HuffPo, so they can report these alleged dirty tricks. lol

I signed up for emails from several of the campaigns.  When I got this one, i decided to finally unsubscribe from Hillary's.  I'd rather get my info second hand than get any more ridiculous emails like that one.  

Paula M. DiNardo
Dover NH

A Blue Hampster since 2007!



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Fair is fair (4.00 / 1)
Let's back up a moment. Just yesterday, someone posted saying his Obama sign had been taken down (my Hillary sign idsappeared, too, but then I found it in the back yard - could have been taken down, could have been the wind, who knows). Jon posted here stating that push polls were being made against Edwards in Iowa, and although he did not use the words, "Candidate X is responsible", he came pretty close; at least one major Edwards spokesperson said the same thing.  I don't recall seeing any hard data, but none of the Clinton supproters called it a tap dance.

Hillary Clinton has been under attack from both Senators Obama and Edwards for over six weeks.  Why? Because, as she said, she is winning. She tried to stay out of the fray of countering her opponents, but there does come a point where, even if it is your "friends" attacking you, you have to respond, or else the voters may think that you are not going to respond when the Republicans start attacking you if you are the nominee.

One of the ironies I find is that the very same Democrats who say Hillary is divisive have been using very divisive tactics against her. When I read sgs or others saying that she is partisan, but Obama will be a unifier, I have to laugh, because Obama has been dividing our party with attacks on Hillary for some time now. The candidate who says he is not politics as usual is, depressingly, very much politics as usual.  Typical is the Kyl-Lieberman vote, where he didn't show up to vote, and then attacked Hillary for her vote.  Typical is his saying he won't take money from Washignton lobbyists, but, as noted in a September 28 story on NBC's First Note,

When veteran field organizer Moses Mercado joined Obama's campaign, but his hire is "making waves," the Washington Post reports, because of his "other line of work -- as a lobbyist with Ogilvy Government Relations who is registered to represent several dozen big-name clients, including the National Rifle Association, the Carlyle Group, the Blackstone Group, Monsanto, Pfizer Inc., United Health Group, Sempra Energy and Constellation Energy."

More: "His resume seems to contradict one of Obama's central themes on the campaign trail -- that as an outsider he can fend of the powerful business interests that he has argued have contributed to the income gap between rich and poor and has frustrated attempts to address issues such as high prescription drug costs and global warming."

In short, the idea that every other candidate can take as many punches at Hillary as he wants, but she does not have the right to respond, strikes me as odd.  And, the idea that she is wrong to raise money off negative campaigning is ironic, in light of the e mail Obama's campaign sent out soliciting donstions to fight negative camapigning.




"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."  Franklin D. Roosevelt    


Huge difference in tactics (0.00 / 0)
I think there's a difference between criticism and attacks.  What the Clinton campaign is doing now, is attacking; not drawing distinctions, not offering a critical view of other candidates statements or positions.  

I get emails from the Obama campaign daily--- I've never been solicited for donations to fight negative campaigning.  I did get an email detailing this whole kindergarten farce... and it was more of saying "Hey, look what they've stooped to, we must be doing well." A la Mike Huckabee, if someone's foot is on your backside, it means your in front!

Feeling hopeful since 2004...now "Secretary" of the New Boston Democratic Caucus


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Did you notice.. (0.00 / 0)
how Edwards was the target, afeww weeks back, but since Barack popped up (in the polls); Clinton/Penn is putting the crosshairs on him?

SGS is Jack Mitchell of Lowell, MA. The symbolism of the "sleeping giant" is based on my HOPE for America.

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An attack is in the eye of the beholder (4.00 / 3)
If it is your candidate on the receiving end, you think it is an attack, if it is your candidate on the sending end, it is drawing distinctions (when I say 'you', I meant that rhetorically, not just you). This close to the primary, objectivity becomes a lost virtue.



"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."  Franklin D. Roosevelt    


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You and "your girl" (0.00 / 0)
Kathy,
You truly have been indoctrinated in the Clinton/Penn paradigm.

The "ju-jitsu" manuever that you so skillfuly execute with your massive lawyering skills is vexing.

A little observation on life:
I am an inqusitive person, so I ask many question. My whole being is framed in the process of discovery. I find that many people are defensive about answering questions. Example- If I go to a potluck and find a morsel waiting for me on the counter, after I dig in, I will ask, "Who made this?" There is a 75% chance that the answer will simply be, "Why? What's wrong with it?"

To some: question = challenge = attack.

Now back to Clinton/Penn:

Since the Clinton/Penn playbook, to which you adhere, is predicated on a "Divide and Conquer, Hillary will save us from the plundering Republicans" fear mongering mindset, anything but the most gentle zephyresque of platitudes will be "framed as an attack."

This hyperfocus on "Us vs. Them" is the engine that drives the Clinton/Penn machine.

If you like, good luck.

I got HOPE!

P.S. Anyone inclined to see how blatantly Kathy is cherry picking press and distorting the reality of Senator Barack Obama's commitment to reforming Washington, please check out my Diary.
Obama: Reform in Washington

SGS is Jack Mitchell of Lowell, MA. The symbolism of the "sleeping giant" is based on my HOPE for America.


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The problem is with considering other candidates as opponents. (0.00 / 0)
They're not.  They're competitors aiming for the same goal, a majority of voters choosing them.  The concept that the last man standing wins is basically anti-democratic.  
Which reminds me; Clinton should have run as a Republican.  It's Republicans who are looking for leaders and don't seem to care much whether they're led over a cliff.

Look, it's true that Bill Clinton was under attack from Republicans.  That's what Republicans do.  That doesn't mean Democrats have to mimic their modus operandi.  The idea that the American people don't care is denigrating.  But, as Howard Dean observed so astutely: given a choice between Republicans and Republican-lite, people are going to go for the real thing.

But then, there's no love lost between the Clintons and Howard Dean, is there?  Not long ago somebody was feeding the Interantional Herald Tribune the assessment that Howard Dean is the "hapless" Chairman of the Democratic National Committee who's not measuring up to the money raising achievements of Terry McAuliffe.  Talk about re-writing history.


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I think it's the most negative thing I've seen (0.00 / 0)
But if it's sincere, fine -- she should report this voter suppression activity to the right agencies while she continues complaining loudly.

If the campaign believes these rumors, sure -- send this out. Raise money off of it. But I think the time of pretending she was taking the high road because she was somehow morally superior is over. She was taking the high road because she had the point spread to do so.

In a way, I'm glad it's over, because we can get beyond all the fake furrowed brows, and this bizarro world pose where Hillary is the positive one and we're all so "concerned" about Edwards's "attacks".



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Truth pours through 16 NH offices (0.00 / 0)

Obama Campaign Opens New Office in Plymouth

Brings total number of Obama for America New Hampshire offices to 16

MANCHESTER, NH-Senator Barack Obama's New Hampshire campaign announced today the opening of its Plymouth office.  The new office brings the campaign's total number of offices to 16, joining regional field offices in Berlin, Claremont, Concord, Conway, Derry, Dover, Keene, Laconia, Lebanon, Littleton, Nashua, Peterborough, Portsmouth, and Rochester, as well as our statewide headquarters in Manchester.

The campaign's regional offices support the unmatched grassroots organization that Obama has built in every corner of New Hampshire.  On Saturday, more than 500 volunteers gathered at the 16 locations before fanning out to canvass throughout the state as part of our Weekend for Change canvass.

Obama for America Plymouth Office
5 Chase Street
Plymouth, NH 03264
(603) 536-4208



SGS is Jack Mitchell of Lowell, MA. The symbolism of the "sleeping giant" is based on my HOPE for America.

Obama Campaign Response: (4.00 / 2)
"This flat-out falsehood is the latest attack in a silly season where our opponents have promised to stop at nothing in an effort to tarnish Barack Obama's character. Push polling or tactics of confusion have no place in this campaign and we don't or won't engage in them. Unlike some other campaigns, we want every potential Iowa caucus-goer to participate in the process, no matter who they support."

Cube-farm drone by day, Obama volunteer organizer by night.

Fact check: (4.00 / 1)
Where did Obama's opponents "promise to stop at nothing in an effort to tarnish Barack Obama's character"?  Talk about flat out falsehoods!!!  



"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."  Franklin D. Roosevelt    


[ Parent ]
re: (0.00 / 0)
At a news conference Sunday in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, a reporter asked Clinton if Barack Obama has a "character problem." Her response, as reported by Pat Healy of the New York Times? "It's beginning to look a lot like that," she said. "I have said for months that I would much rather be attacking Republicans and attacking problems of our country because ultimately that's what I want to do as president. But I have been for months on the receiving end of rather consistent attacks - well now the fun part starts." According to Healy, she "punctuat[ed] the word 'fun.'"

Quote is from Newsweek.
http://www.blog.newsweek.com/b...

Cube-farm drone by day, Obama volunteer organizer by night.


[ Parent ]
Numbers? (4.00 / 1)
That quote? It doesn't say what you said it says. It does not say that Obama's opponents have said that they will stop at nothing in an effort to tarnish Senator Obama. So, unless you come up with something else, that quote you gave from your campaign - it is not true. And, it said, "Obama's opponents", which means it isn't just a false statement about Hillary, it is a false statement about the other candidates, too. What's up with that?



"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."  Franklin D. Roosevelt    


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Chinks in the armor (0.00 / 0)
It seems the Hillary campaign is finally getting nervous.  Perhaps the fact that she is NOT, by any stretch of the imagination, inevitable, is getting to them?  Particularly because she had and now lost the lead in Iowa?

Meanwhile, if Hillary doesn't win Iowa, how long before she drops out?

--
"Act as if ye have faith and faith shall be given to you." -Aaron Sorkin


Stating that a rival campaign (4.00 / 1)
is issuing false caucus locations is a major, major accusation.

To do it in a fundraising letter, and without sourcing, is really poor form, imho.

Here's hoping Penn will call this one a "joke" too.

(the push poll stuff gets thrown around all the time, and annoyingly so, since most of the time they aren't push polls, so I'll let that go, even though the accusatory vagueness of it is irritating)

It's funny. I saw this email this morning and was moved to blog about it, but I refrained so that folks wouldn't think I was unfairly targeting Team Clinton.

But it looks like this rattled others too.

birch, finch, beech


Voter Supression is a serious issue (4.00 / 2)
Voter suppression is a crime against voters, not Hillary. Failing to report such actions when discovered seems pretty serious.

If this perversion of democracy is going on and the first thing they think to do is send out a fund raising letter, well that's an interesting choice. If I were Obama, I'd ask her if she filed a complaint with the proper agencies, and if she did it before or after her campaign sent out the letter.

But then again, maybe this is just a Lieberman.

(Perhaps the next letter will complain hillaryhub has been "hacked"?)



[ Parent ]
That's the perfect response. (0.00 / 0)
If I were Obama, I'd ask her if she filed a complaint with the proper agencies, and if she did it before or after her campaign sent out the letter.

Ha ha.  I totally forgot about that Jomentum story.

birch, finch, beech


[ Parent ]
wow (0.00 / 0)
that is bringing back some sore memories from my past!

Disclaimer - Don't know if I technically still need one since no longer work in NH, but am paid staffer at AFL-CIO :)

[ Parent ]
Ha! (0.00 / 0)
I remember you guys offered to send someone over to help them fix it (or did Tagaris offer to go himself?) Thought that was one of the classier things I'd seen.




[ Parent ]
yeah (4.00 / 1)
that was hysterical!  We offered to send Tim and/or the entire online team to help them fix it.

The best part was none of us could understand the insane technical details he was talking about so we just threw him in front of the entire state and national press corps, of course, wearing his usual Cubs jersey and baseball hat!

Disclaimer - Don't know if I technically still need one since no longer work in NH, but am paid staffer at AFL-CIO :)


[ Parent ]
Voter Suppression (0.00 / 0)
I got the email and went to the website to see what other people got.  Didn't see a word about fundraising in what I got or anywhere else. I think someone should show the "fundraising" email they got.

As far as dirty tricks go...some of us in New Hampshire are a bit sensitive to the charge.  I have been hearing from door-to-door canvassers since last September that Obama people have been bad-mouthing Hillary Clinton.  I haven't heard it on the phonebanks I do.

As far as lawn signs go, I can see that Hillary Clinton's have been disappearing while other camaign's signs seem to be safe from vandalism.

As a campaign manager for several candidates, I agree that voter suppression is a crime against voters.  I know that candidate signs aren't as important in other state, but they are important in New Hampshire.

I have been encouraging Clinton supporters to report stolen signs to the police.  It won't get the signs back, but it's still important.  Most have told me they have already reported stolen signs.



[ Parent ]
I'll give you that -- I'll take back "fundraising" (4.00 / 1)
That comment was wrong, because you're right there isn't any explicit fundraising in it. I regret and retract that term.

My broader point still stands though. Either this is serious enough to pursue legal remedy on behalf of the voters, or it's not serious enough to send a broadcast campaign email.

I would have started the letter saying that the campaign had notified x and y of certain actions and they were now investigating those actions. Then go into the accusations. I don't see that here, which makes me raise at least one eyebrow.




[ Parent ]
Bad Mouthing (4.00 / 1)
I have been haunting the Obama NH HQ since it opened and have been in and around countless volunteers, so I feel very confident in what I will say next.

There is a mixture of attitudes amongst hope mongers towards Hillary, as you might expect. The one thing that I have seen to be consistant, is the realization that "bad mouthing" Sen. Clinton is counterproductive in a tactical sense and, simply, "poor cricket" in a "we are all dems" sense.

The staff that I know, adamantly oppose any negativity towards any of the candidates and repeatedly stress the need for volunteers to promote the positives of Barack and let the negatives of the others to take care of themselves.

Volunteers are energized supporters, so predisposed to favor "their pick" over all others. The beauty of voter to voter contact, via canvass, is so that "street level, plain talk" can occur amongst folks. Thus it is very likely that "plain talk" might take a turn for the worse on either side of the discussion.

Should I discuss some of the things that I have heard out of the mouths of the "minority" of Clinton supporters that I have talked to? Why? Their opinions are not what Hillary is all about.

Let's now get into the subjective nature of the word "bad". Of course, this gray area isn't of particular interest to you, Calvin. It doesn't suit your purposes.

Which is cool, because we know that blogging is the art of mixing sugar with spice, preferably with third party back up.


SGS is Jack Mitchell of Lowell, MA. The symbolism of the "sleeping giant" is based on my HOPE for America.


[ Parent ]
Dirty Tricks, Calvin? (0.00 / 0)
Seems that they are not so sensitive to those over in Iowa.

No worries. Most of us know that County Chairs don't represent the candidate. Some desperate soul, acting out. Doing what they think is the best thing to do.

These things happen in heated races, right?


SGS is Jack Mitchell of Lowell, MA. The symbolism of the "sleeping giant" is based on my HOPE for America.


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