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It's O night in Manchester

by: Delegator

Sun Dec 09, 2007 at 21:33:14 PM EST


(Not being a TV watcher, I don't really get Oprah, but Pindell just reported that this was the "largest political NH rally in recent memory," so that makes it FP-worthy, imho.  If anyone was there and has impressions or photos, this might be a good thread for that. - promoted by Dean Barker)

I would be remiss if I didn't write something about the big event tonight in Manchester. If you are reading this blog, then you surely know that the big event is the rally with Oprah Winfrey and Barack Obama, attended by around 10,000 people. This follows a crowd of 30,000 in South Carolina, and 18,000 in Iowa. There have already been analysis and speculation about how much influence Oprah can actually have on this election.

Having spent several days talking to folks about the event, and several hours early this morning doing things like re-upholstering the seats on which Oprah, Michele, and Barack will sit while in Manchester,  I have my thoughts on what this all means.

Delegator :: It's O night in Manchester

I find it amusing when pundits or other campaigns try to minimize the affect that Oprah will have on this race. Oprah is the rare case of a celebrity whose endorsement has a huge upside but essentially no downside. Let's look at what she brings to the campaign.


First, Oprah brings new people into the conversation. You know all those undecided voters out there, the ones who don't like to think about the race until about a month before the election? Well, here it is a month before the election and a lot of those undecided voters are spending a good chunk of their Saturday or Sunday listening to Oprah introduce Barack Obama, and then to Senator Obama lay out his vision in his best Jefferson-Jackson style. Ask any campaign whether they'd like instant access to a few thousand previously untouched voters. Never mind -- you know the answer.


Second, there's the free press. All of the press coverage of the Oprah-Obama event has been positive. It's been about the buzz, the people who want to see Oprah, the fact that Oprah is backing Obama. We're talking radio hosts on WZID 95.7, the most-listened to pop radio station in New Hampshire. TV hosts on our lone network affiliate. This is news with a capital 'O' and it's the kind of publicity that money can't buy. But why is all the coverage so positive? That's because...


Nobody hates Oprah. Really. I'm no fan of her show myself, and frankly I thought her acting to be mediocre. But even so, I respect her business acumen and the way she has used her position to do some pretty darn positive things. She gets people to buy books. Need I say more? I don't care if they read 1 in 4 that they purchase, she gets people to buy books. Beyond that, nobody I know dislikes her. She's not like a Susan Sarandon, Tim Robbins, Sean Penn, Barbra Streisand, or even George Clooney, all of whom alienate some people by wearing their politics on their sleeves.


I suppose you could be forgiven for wondering whether maybe Oprah would  misfire in the unfamiliar world of politics. Having seen her introduction of Obama in Iowa, I'd say she hit the right notes. She had all the characteristics of this campaign: positive, focusing on the candidate and on the positive change he can bring, at this moment, when we need it.


Finally, I'd like to debunk a myth that I've helped perpetuate, which is the idea that people are going to these events just to see Oprah. It turns out that's only partially true. I say this because I have three neighbors who are going to the event. Two of them kind of surprised me, because I knew their parents, at least, were died in the wool Republicans. I also didn't see them as big Oprah fans, but one never assumes...


Well, in talking to these fine folks about getting their tickets, I found that they weren't going to see Oprah at all -- they were going to this event because they hadn't managed to see Obama in person yet, and they really wanted to see him! That's anecdotal, to be sure, but it's proof that the buzz isn't just about Oprah.


I'm sure the polls over the next week will be in the news to see whether there was an "Oprah Effect" or an "Oprah Bounce." I admit that I'm interested to find out as well, but woe be unto any who think that this momentum is just about Oprah. It's the other O -- Obama -- that always has and always will matter in this race.

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Pindell (4.00 / 1)
This was the most attended political event in recent state history. On the weekend before the New Hampshire Primary in 2004, Wesley Clark drew 3,000 with filmmaker Michael Moore. Then the weekend before the general election that year President Bush tried highly unsuccessfully to fill the Verizon Wireless Arena and the next day John Kerry held a 5,000 person rally in the streets of downtown Manchester.

The event was also remarkable for its stagecraft. Over 30 television cameras, blaring music, grand, long entrances from both Oprah and Obama with standing ovations added to the idea that something was different about this rally.

The crowd clinged to Oprah and her stories. Teenage girls shook like they saw a member of the Beatles when she was introduced to a 30 second standing ovation. But while Obama started strong he also went long -- some 40 minutes -- and some yawns were visible in the audience.

But as he closed in on his final lines he got people back to their feet.

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birch, finch, beech


Re: Yawning (4.00 / 1)
I tried so hard to hide it, standing pretty close to the stage and in view of most of the cameras, but I spent all day trying to get up here from school so I had to let a few out.

Despite how tired I was, I was amazed at how well Obama held everyone's attention.  I didn't see any people leaving during the entirety of his speech.  So in spite of his self-deprecating aside that he was only the "3rd best speaker" there (after Michelle and Oprah) it's absolutely clear to me that he was the main event tonight.

His tempo was almost perfect as well.  The atmosphere was so electric and positive, I almost couldn't believe that so large and diverse a group of New Englanders could be stirred so.  Barack's speech was so amazing for me because it balanced this intense excitement and optimism of the crowd throughout an incredibly serious narrative with some sobering moments, yet never losing our attention and always radiating this sense of hope and empowerment.

WMUR said that there were 8500 in attendance tonight but it felt like half of New Hampshire was there, judging by the familiar, and more so, all the unfamiliar faces.  Assuming that the crowd was mostly NHsters, a fairly significant percentage of the state, and a serious slice of Democratic primary voters, were in attendance tonight.

It's time we steer by the stars, and not the lights of every passing ship


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Snagged a couple from MyBO (4.00 / 1)

For the MyBO Blogs on the event, please go here

I am sure there will be some hope mongers chiming in on BH with the scoop.

PS I like how Oprah named her production company Harpo.


SGS is Jack Mitchell of Lowell, MA. The symbolism of the "sleeping giant" is based on my HOPE for America.


It's time to stand up! (4.00 / 1)
I was there and it was amazing.  Of course, being that I was standing 3 people deep from the secret service barricade, it was a little hard for me to get the enormity of it all.  I literally looked Michelle, Oprah, and Barack in the eye as they spoke...got chills at several moments, and felt like it was a personal conversation amongst friends--- that is until Obama broke out in to his "sermon" preaching style at the end.  Then everyone wa really fired up.

I took notes the entire time, so you'll excuse me, but I feel a diary coming on...

Feeling hopeful since 2004...now "Secretary" of the New Boston Democratic Caucus


Did they give away bobble heads ? n/t (0.00 / 0)


We represent the Lollypop Guild, the Lollypop Guild, the Lollypop guild.

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No, but we did the wave! (0.00 / 0)
OK, so I'm generally VERY anti- doing the wave at sporting events.  I feel, I'm here to watch a game, not do the wave... because at Fenway, people aren't trying to get you to do it BEFORE the game starts or after the game, it's in the middle of the inning, and I'd rather be paying attention to what's on the field.
With that being said, it was well-placed at this event.  The doors opened at 6 and with the exception of videos on the jumbo-tron, this kept the audience FIRED UP while waiting for the event to begin.

Feeling hopeful since 2004...now "Secretary" of the New Boston Democratic Caucus

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Hang Ten.... (0.00 / 0)
I saw that on T.V. silly/scary stuff. What's that all about ?
Were they cheering for his Nuclear Containment Policy ?
Your Fenway analogy works...fan=fanatic

We represent the Lollypop Guild, the Lollypop Guild, the Lollypop guild.

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What's that all about ? (0.00 / 0)
Jon, your screwing with me, right?

Parroting is not your strong suit, bub.

SGS is Jack Mitchell of Lowell, MA. The symbolism of the "sleeping giant" is based on my HOPE for America.


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Keep hope alive ! (0.00 / 0)


We represent the Lollypop Guild, the Lollypop Guild, the Lollypop guild.

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Tomorrow... (0.00 / 0)
While indeed, in a theme echoed by both Oprah and Barack, This is the moment... It is not my moment.  Now is my moment to get some sleep.  I've started working on my BIG write up of the BIG event, but it will have to wait until the morrow.


Feeling hopeful since 2004...now "Secretary" of the New Boston Democratic Caucus

I was there (4.00 / 1)
Stuck around in Manchester after canvassing Merrimack. Quite a day. Exhausted now, but here's a few impressions:
- Don't get me wrong, folks love them some Oprah... but it semed like people, most of them, anyway, were actually there to see Barack and Oprah was just a very fun bonus feature.
- Oprah's speech was good.
- Obama's speech was much longer than I expected, but he read the room well and kept people engaged. It was an interesting mix of material - some post JJ Dinner stump speech, some of the older stump speech (I think), some jokes, some stories, ended on a great note.
- It was a veritable 3 ring circus outside. The lines snaked for several blocks and were treated to some very loud and agressive pitches from several organizations, including very vocal Ron Paul and Kucinich supporters, as well as peace activists, healthcare activists, some very angry anti-Sununu folks and some very polite Chris Dodd folks.
- Michelle Obama continues to be exceptional.

My camera is pretty bad, but here's one picture from my seats behind the stage:

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There were a TON of people there, but as you can see here, some of the obstructed view seats (such as the ones behind the media platform) remained empty.

Afterwards, he spent a long time shaking hands and talking to people, getting to as much of the crowd as the heavy secret service presense would allow.

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That's it for now, I'll be a bit more lucid tomorrow. But I can now say that I've seen Barack Obama speak live and in person 3 times in one week, and that ain't bad.

Cube-farm drone by day, Obama volunteer organizer by night.


Angry? (4.00 / 1)
Was there some other group doing viz against Sununu? I certainly hope you did not think that the NHDP staff, volunteers (and me, by the way) were in any way "angry". Cold? Yes. Commited? Yes. Enthusiastic? Yes. Having a great time? You bet!

Since 90% of the attendees had to walk by us, I got to say hi to all the great NH Democrats filing by. I had a great time.

Have you written a letter to the editor today? Have you donated today? Have you put up signs? Have you made calls? Have you talked to your neighbors?


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Didn't mean to imply "rude" (4.00 / 2)
Or angry at those attending the event. I meant "angry at Sununu".  

Cube-farm drone by day, Obama volunteer organizer by night.

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Pet Peeve (0.00 / 0)
For some reason, I have a disproportionately large pet peeve about campaign-produced attendance estimates. I'll probably get in trouble for saying this (just like the last time I was at an Obama event in Laconia, or the time before when I was at a Clinton event in Nashua when I spoke truth to power) but I can't honestly believe there were more than 5500 people there.  5600 if you count press. Maybe even 5700.

Still the biggest NH event in history, I'm sure, but the rectangular sections were 20 wide and 14 tall (280) and there were ten of those full. The triangular sections held about 100, and there were maybe ten of those. Then you had the luxury boxes, the ground floor where Nordstrom was, and the nosebleeds that were sporadically merely dabbled with people.

I used to teach math to 6th graders so I have spent a lot of time with area and perimeter. I also know how to count and estimate pretty well (once again, key components of the curriculum). Please, campaigns, stop overestimating!

According to the VZW Arena website "end stage concerts hold about 10,050." I would liken this to an end stage concert, and the place was somewhere between one half and two thirds full. Not 85%.

I want to reiterate that this has nothing to do with the Obama camp in particular. Clinton does it. They all do it. My word to the wise, whenever you hear a campaign estimate, take two thirds of it and call it Gold.

I'll have a diary up ASAP. The goal is to pull an all-nighter to coordinate with the news cycle. Concord High's 7:45 start time may be the only thing standing in my way. I've got bourbon. I've got water. I've got some Cabot cheese. I've got the hope of snow making its way north from Manchester toward my bedroom window.  


O Night in Manchester (4.00 / 1)
I was in the crowd waiting to see Obama and Oprah in Manchester last night. No one around us was talking about Oprah. They were talking Obama and issues. Of course, her name was mentioned in passing, but she was not the focus of those around us. Further ancedotal information - I don't know if it qualifies as evidence.

Warndog


Double "O" Impact (4.00 / 1)
As a nation, we never seem to have a problem when celebs pitch in to help a good cause. Yes, I am a hope monger, but if we put that aside, let us look at how Oprah helped mobilize people in a significant way.

How Oprah helped build our organization: By the numbers

By Sam Graham-Felsen - Dec 10th, 2007 at 10:47 am EST

We are grateful that Oprah Winfrey came out to Iowa, South Carolina, and New Hampshire this weekend to speak on behalf of Barack. After the four huge rallies this weekend, many are wondering what impact Oprah will have on the campaign.

Well, she's already made quite an impact -- helping to strengthen and grow our grassroots organization in Iowa, South Carolina and New Hampshire.

By the numbers:

-At least 66,500 attended the rallies (More than 29,000 in Iowa, more than 29,000 in South Carolina and 8,500 in New Hampshire)

-4,250 volunteers helped to build the events in the week prior and the day of the events (2,300 in South Carolina, 1,300 in Iowa and 650 in New Hampshire)

-In South Carolina, 68% of the folks who signed up for the rally had never communicated with the campaign before. 1,300 supporters volunteered the day of the rally and more than 9,600 signed supporter cards for the first time. The first attendees arrived at the stadium between 5:00-5:30 a.m. yesterday morning.

-In Iowa, tickets were distributed out of all 37 field offices around the state. In Des Moines alone, 1,385 volunteer shifts were completed for individuals who wanted tickets to the rally.

-In New Hampshire, over 2,300 new supporters joined the campaign just this week leading up to the rally and more than 650 new volunteers signed on to help the campaign.

Oprah helped give our organization a big boost this weekend, but we need all of you to continue to build our grassroots movement.
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SGS is Jack Mitchell of Lowell, MA. The symbolism of the "sleeping giant" is based on my HOPE for America.

Photo Journal (0.00 / 0)
I had too many to post here. But you can see them all on my blog. http://www.threeqblog.com/2007...

Worth a look even if you hate Obama.


I noticed a large batch also posted (0.00 / 0)
On the NH08 Photo Pool over at flickr.

http://www.flickr.com/groups/n...

any and all are encouraged to post their photos of any candidate over there

Hope > Fear




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