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Never Again

by: Dean Barker

Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 05:41:01 AM EDT


Five years, several thousand dead Americans, scores and scores of wounded, hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis, millions of displaced people, and three trillion dollars later.  All for a needless, pre-emptive invasion on a heaping pile of lies.
For those of you with a high tolerance for pain and tragedy, you can watch over an hour of this staggering, arrogant mendacity at Leading to War.  It  will easily recall to your mind the wrong we have been up against for the entirety of the Bush Administration, and a Media that was all too willing to follow along (note how Rumsfeld has them laughing in the aisles at one of his dismissive lies in the clip).

Interesting that the presidential race is boiling down to one likely nominee who was (unlike I, to my everlasting shame) against this insanity from the beginning, and another who likes to brag about keeping our men and women in uniform there for a million years.  Sounds to me like a great opportunity to vote out of office everyone associated with making Bush's perverse war of choice possible, from McCain down to Sununu and everyone else who ducked the hard reality that war is always and everywhere an absolute last resort.

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Leading to War (0.00 / 0)
I watched the entire hour + of this remarkable compilation of lies yesterday. I highly recommend it though suggest you not watch it all at once as the anger at so many lies might cause a cranial explosion. To see those people lie straight faced about WMD, mushroom clouds, remote controlled aircraft carrying anthrax etc etc with the knowledge that those lies will lead to the needless and unjustified deaths and grotesque disfigurement of thousands of our young people, the deaths and disfigurement of perhaps millions of innocent men women and children, the suffering of those not otherwise injured because of  the absolute devastation of the infrastructure of an entire country, the torture, and the transfer of trillions of OUR dollars into the pockets of the already wealthy shareholders of companies like Halliburton and KBR and the resulting collapse of our economy is more than one should take in one sitting.
Don't get me started.

...the Doo Dah Man once told me you've got to play your hand. Sometimes the cards ain't worth a dime if you don't lay 'em down.

Over 90,000 maimed, injured, ptsd'd (4.00 / 1)
The cost of these murderous lies will be ours for 50-60 years.
I agree wholeheartedly with your idea, vote out of office everyone associated with making Bush's perverse war of choice possible, from McCain down to Sununu and everyone else who ducked the hard reality that war is always and everywhere an absolute last resort.

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I want to see all of them (0.00 / 0)
from Bush on down hauled into court and prosecuted for war crimes.

If there is a god....

...the Doo Dah Man once told me you've got to play your hand. Sometimes the cards ain't worth a dime if you don't lay 'em down.


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Five year have passed (4.00 / 3)
Easy to Be Hard

How can people be so heartless
How can people be so cruel
Easy to be hard
Easy to be cold

How can people have no feelings
How can they ignore their friends
Easy to be proud
Easy to say no
( from the musical Hair)

http://baghdadbureau.blogs.nyt...

March 18, 2008, 7:33 pm
In a Photographer's Memory, Images of the Dead

By Max Becherer

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Five years have passed since I stood on the border of Iraq and Kuwait, watching the predawn sky for the first salvos in the Iraq war. I am reading political analyses and historical accounts of years that are past. I am thinking of all of the things that had not yet happened as I stood in the desert sand that day.

Whatever war is, it is a deeply personal experience for those who live in it. I am a photographer and have captured thousands of images of Iraq and the war there since that day. But when I stop reading about the war, I guess I get that faraway look I always saw, as I grew up, in the eyes of countless veterans and civilians who lived through war, including my mother. I don't wonder what they see anymore. I see images. Not the images I took, as the shutter is closed the moment I capture a photograph. I see the images and feel the sensations I keep mentally when I am without the help of a lens. Sometimes they are still images and sometimes they are short movie clips of the people on all sides of the war who are no longer living.



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OK, so as usual, (4.00 / 1)
the remote control stuff was partly correct in that it was the U.S. that was developing lightweight drones that could be used to deliver bombs and missiles and be controlled remotely.  Indeed, we are now using them to monitor and assassinate so-called insurgents in Iraq from computer consoles in Nevada.
Air Force to Build Up Its Drone Supply

The Air Force said yesterday that it plans to buy enough Predator drones to equip 15 squadrons over the next five years, up from three currently, to use in Iraq, Afghanistan and other hot spots.


That was a couple of years ago.  More recently,
Air Force hopes to boost fleet of lethal fighter drones

The Air Force is seeking $540 million for Predator and Reaper aircraft, up from $334 million in 2008. The remotely controlled planes' ability to linger over a target as long as a day, provide images of insurgent activity and fire weapons to kill them is changing the nature of combat.

"What we're able to get with our Predators and our Reapers is persistence," said Lt. Gen. Gary North, who runs air combat operations across Africa and parts of Asia, including Afghanistan. "With the Reaper we get an increased lethality."

And I thought that assassination had been prohibited.

BTW, these little gadgets were first brought out in 1994 and tried out in the Balkans under the watchful eye of our last Democratic President.  But then, poor Bill Clinton couldn't deny the Pentagon anything for fear they'd call him a pansy.


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Why We Fight (4.00 / 2)
 I watched "why we fight" a couple of weeks ago. It was worth the view (I think most of it is available on YouTube. Thesis- The reason we fight is the union of:
  • a standing military that need resources to do their jobs
  • a private defense industry that like any industry is always looking improve their products and sell there customer more, and more expensive products
  • a legislative branch that wants to bring jobs/pork to their home districts.

At one point someone mentioned that there is a piece of a particular bomber made in every state in the union. Cut the bomber, every lawmaker is affected.

Locally we only need to look at our efforts to save Portsmouth Naval Shipyard. It's ok to downsize the military as long as it in nimby.

Anyway, "Why I Post" this, here, in this thread was the the very real sense of cognitive dissonance I felt while watching a movie with footage about a war that was still going on. Interviews with people who have since become critical of the war added to the sense that this has been going on for a long time.

I was President of one of our local Rotary Clubs at the time of the 1000th Service member death. I recall having a moment of silence to mark the milestone. It's hard to believe it is still going on, it seems like a lifetime ago.

Two of my three children have lived nearly their whole lives during this war.


Hope > Fear




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I'm having a hard time (0.00 / 0)
wrapping my head around the fact that this has been going on for 5 years.

Remember when we were going to be greeted as liberators? When the war would cost only $50 million - and it would really pay for itself?

Five years ago, I was part of a panel discussion on my local cable access station, about the impending war. One of the panelists was a local history teacher, one a retired Rear Admiral. All of us were unanimous that going to war was a bad idea. As soon as we went off the air, someone came in and told us that Bush had just announced that the US was invading Iraq.

Tonight I stood outside in the sleet with some of my friends - a candlelight vigil in downtown North Conway. I was holding a sign that read:

   

                          The Cost:

3990  US Dead
1.2 Million Iraqui Dead
$4 Trillion

The number of US dead is actually 3992 now.

A local reporter told me that the price of gas was $1.46 per gallon five years ago. He commented that "if this was about oil, it's pretty obvious who lost."

A guy drove by in a big, gas guzzling pickup and yelled, "freedom isn't free!"
* Sigh*

A bunch of local volunteer firemen glared at us as they passed by. Two came back to find out why we don't support the troops.
* Sigh*

I'm really having a hard time with this. Five years - for what?  


Thank you for your service (4.00 / 1)
"freedom convenience isn't free!"

Susan,
As a Desert Storm vet, I would be very happy to speak with the "patriots" that you attract as you exercise the rights afforded to you under the Constitution.

I may have fought for oil in 1990, but I like to remind myself that my service was inspired by Americans who carry the torch of our founders.

That would be you and all that speak up in these dire times. Thank you for your service, Susan.

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Jack (4.00 / 2)
Thank you. thank YOU for being the veteran you are.

You rock.



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It takes a village. (4.00 / 1)
No. For real. It does.

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you're right (0.00 / 0)
it takes community, which is why the meme of the rugged individual is such ....guano.  

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