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Bill Richardson on Iraq, North Korea, and Energy

by: Laura Clawson

Fri Apr 06, 2007 at 14:33:49 PM EDT


Cross-posted from Daily Kos.

On Wednesday I had the opportunity to interview presidential candidate, New Mexico governor, and former Secretary of Energy Bill Richardson before he spoke to several hundred Dartmouth College students and other New Hampshire residents.  Perhaps the most striking thing in hearing Richardson speak, one on one and before an audience, is his focus on diplomacy - quite a contrast with the current president, and one that implicitly denies legitimacy to Bush's war-as-first-resort model.  I'll post more soon on this week's presidential candidate events in New Hampshire, but here you get Richardson in his own words.

On Iraq - what should happen now and what he would do as president:  Democrats should unite behind one policy, which should be to deauthorize the war, to look at the Congress having authorized the war four years ago.  I would have a war powers resolution deauthorizing the war, with timetables and benchmarks.  I would withdraw this calendar year.  The consensus seems to have been built around March of 2008, but I'd get out this year. But the Congress authorized the war and the Congress should deauthorize the war. Then, there will be a legal fight - the administration will say "well, we don't recognize the war powers act."  Then you go to the Supreme Court.  That's what I would do, because my sense is that every effort should be made to cut the funding, but I worry about whether we have the votes to do it.  What this veto will do is President Bush will have made the war by far the number one issue in the 2008 campaign, because this veto means gridlock, deadlock.  So I would proceed with a deauthorization resolution.  And I was there, I was in Congress fifteen years.

The best case [right now] would be for the House and Senate to agree on the next step.  That should be a complete priority, and then there should be a national effort, mobilized by the Democrats, to cut funding.  That's the constitutional role of the Congress, and they should pursue that.  They should have a deadline.

On his upcoming trip to North Korea: Well, my goals are to bring back some remains, because I believe that that will bring further progress to the disarmament talks with North Korea.  It's a good sign if the North Koreans turn over some remains, that they're pleased with the six-party talks.  This is a case where I believe politics should stop at the water's edge - when it's national security, when you're dealing with a country that has six nuclear weapons.  If I can work with the administration to just improve the atmosphere by having a good visit, and bring back some remains of Americans missing from the Korean war, I will have made a contribution.  That's the goal.

My ulterior goal is for the president to realize that dealing directly with North Korea makes sense and that's the reason he had progress. That now he'll be prepared to deal directly with Iran and Syria, which I think is essential for a broader Middle East agreement and for resolving the situation in Iraq and for maybe making some progress on the Palestinian issue.

On how the North Korea trip fits in his overall foreign policy experience: The point I make is that I'm the presidential candidate with the most direct foreign policy experience.  I've negotiated with foreign countries, I've negotiated cease-fires, I've rescued American servicemen, I've dealt with regimes that are a problem - North Korea, Iraq, Sudan, Cuba - and I believe that I know how to protect American interests and pursue a dialogue that might lead to peace. 

On energy policy: I have experience as Secretary of Energy in promoting renewable energy, which I think is the key to a new policy that I would promote, which would be an Apollo program to reduce our dependence from 65% to 10% using renewable technology, public and private investment.  But I would also go on a national crusade to make the country greener.  Green buildings, fuel efficiency, solar roofs in schools, more conservation, more efficient washing machines, air-conditioning, a whole push to change America's behaviors and attitudes towards energy.

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What was the crowd reaction? n/t (0.00 / 0)


I'm going to post eventually (4.00 / 1)
on that event, Edwards at Stonyfield on Monday, and Obama at Keene State on Monday.  But briefly:

He had a fair crowd, but my sense was that relatively few of them were already sold on him going in.  And while I don't think he ever got to the kind of ready applause that Edwards gets, let alone Obama, he definitely captured the crowd's attention, had them laughing quite a few times, had a steady stream of questions, etc.  So my guess would be that a lot of people who hadn't given him much thought emerged thinking about him seriously.


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I'm glad you'll post on Keene State (4.00 / 1)
I've actually put it off because my thoughts became progressively more resolved that Obama was not my candidate. And while I'll admit that in a comment, I'm not going to make a post out of it.

I think I'm ultimately the same place I was six weeks ago: I love Edwards' view of government, his rhetoric, and his near encyclopedic knowledge, and I love Richardson's pragmatism. Kind of opposing views, but still an embarrasment of riches.

Obama I still have no strong feelings about. I really think of him rhetorically as Mark Warner 2.0, and policy-wise currently undistinguished.

Maybe it's because I gave up cynicism in 2004. So the message that the enemy is cynicism doesn't resonate with me. I've conquered cynicism, I'm onto new enemies.

 



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audience response (4.00 / 1)
was very good (at least at New England College). People were excited to hear of his experience and his ideas. But most of all, they appreciated Richardson's humor and personality. I mean, he mixed serious policy answers with off-the-cuff one liners and such.

Very presidential and very human at the same time.


Gravel and Richardson agree on Iraq (0.00 / 0)
You know, Bill said the same thing Gravel said. Going after Iraq funding is all right, but it isn't going to work. Deauthorize the war, get it to the Supreme Court. The point is this is a Constitutional Issue, so you need to force a Constitutional Crisis. And you can do it with 51 votes.

I find that interesting. Very interesting as a matter of fact. A bomb thrower like Gravel and a diplomat like Richardson endorse the same strategy -- I think that's worth a look.



Remains and North Korea (0.00 / 0)
It just struck me how much we suffer from any diplomatic understanding in the current adminstration. Richardson says bringing back remains will help move things forward. I'm sure that the administration would scoff at that. How could such a small token have any effect? Ridiculous.

But of course Richardson is right. Major agreements often come out of small initial tokens. The first rule of negotiation is to keep the guy talking. And from my limited viewing of hostage crisis documentaries on the History Channel, the second rule of negotiation seems to be to exchange tokens of good faith.

Does that matter? Well North Korea has seven nukes because we thought walking away from the table would show our strength. It matters.



Agreed (0.00 / 0)
The think that I like most about Richardson is his record with Diplomacy.  If he were elected President, I just know there would all sorts of negotiations and peace deals... exactly what we need to fix our foreign policy and restore America's image around the world.

I'm not saying that other Democrats wouldn't do that, just that with Richardson its a sure deal.


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agreed (0.00 / 0)
diplomacy would be a top priority in a Richardson administration.


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