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The differences on Illegal Immigration between the candidates.

by: Granitdamit

Fri Jan 04, 2008 at 18:10:02 PM EST


There are BIG differences between the candidates on the Immigration issue.

Barack Obama's Plan
Create Secure Borders
Obama wants to preserve the integrity of our borders. He supports additional personnel, infrastructure and technology on the border and at our ports of entry.

Improve Our Immigration System
Obama believes we must fix the dysfunctional immigration bureaucracy and increase the number of legal immigrants to keep families together and meet the demand for jobs that employers cannot fill.

Remove Incentives to Enter Illegally
Obama will remove incentives to enter the country illegally by cracking down on employers who hire undocumented immigrants.

Bring People Out of the Shadows
Obama supports a system that allows undocumented immigrants who are in good standing to pay a fine, learn English, and go to the back of the line for the opportunity to become citizens.

Work with Mexico
Obama believes we need to do more to promote economic development in Mexico to decrease illegal immigration.

http://www.barackobama.com/iss...

John Edwards
Strengthen Our Borders
The first step in overhauling the immigration system is to secure our borders and stop illegal trafficking. Edwards supports doubling the number of border patrol agents and investing in surveillance technology to police the borders. We also need to crack down on employers that hire undocumented immigrants. Edwards supports more vigorous workplace enforcement and increased fines for businesses that knowingly break the rules.

Provide an Earned Path to Citizenship that Requires English It is unrealistic to think that we can deport more than 12 million people. Edwards believes people who are already here should have the opportunity to earn American citizenship by avoiding a criminal record, paying a fine in recognition that they came here illegally, and learning English - the surest path to success in this country.

Preserve Family Reunification
Our immigration policies should bring families together, not keep them apart. Edwards believes family reunification is an important value that our immigration laws should continue to respect. We should remove barriers to family reunification.

No New Second-Class of Laborers
America is a land of equals, not a land of first-class citizens and second-class laborers. Edwards opposes new temporary guest worker programs that do not provide adequate workplace protections and a reasonable path to citizenship. If we invite you to work in America, we should invite you to become an American with all the rights and responsibilities of citizenship.

End the Backlog
The process for background checks on legal immigrants has broken down, delaying proper applications for naturalization and jeopardizing security. The backlog of applications has doubled to nearly 330,000. Edwards will end the background check backlog for people who are already in this country and are applying to become lawful permanent residents and, eventually, citizens.
http://www.johnedwards.com/iow...

Hillary Clinton
Hillary has consistently called for comprehensive immigration reform that respects our immigrant heritage and honors the rule of law. She believes comprehensive reform must have as essential ingredients a strengthening of our borders, greater cross-cooperation with our neighbors, strict but fair enforcement of our laws, federal assistance to our state and local governments, strict penalties for those who exploit undocumented workers, and a path to earned legal status for those who are here, working hard, paying taxes, respecting the law, and willing to meet a high bar.

Hillary strongly believes we need to do more to know who is in our country by securing our borders and ensuring that employers comply with the law against hiring and exploiting undocumented workers. She supports deploying new technology that can help stop the flow of undocumented immigrants into the country and an employer verification system that is universal, accurate, timely, and does not lead to discrimination and abuse by employers.

Along with these changes, Hillary believes we need to repair those broken portions of our immigration system that irrevocably damage families and force citizens and lawful immigrants to choose between their newly adopted country and living with their spouse or children. We have a national interest in fostering strong families. This is why she introduced an amendment during consideration of the immigration reform bill that would have taken steps to protect the sanctity of families. Our American values demand no less.

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/...

I have taken care to put each web site on this blog so that you may check where the information came from.
There is a definite difference in all 3 candidates and the way they discuss their solutions. I would like to have a civil debate on those differences and when you read all 3 of these statements, you will see what attracted so many voters to Obama in Iowa and across the nation.

Granitdamit :: The differences on Illegal Immigration between the candidates.
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My Take.. (0.00 / 0)
Here is the main difference that I see.

Obama supports a system that allows undocumented immigrants who are in good standing to pay a fine, learn English, and go to the back of the line for the opportunity to become citizens.

Obama's plan is fair and protects our Laws as well as the people like my great grandfather who immigrated legally from Ireland!

Here is one of the reasons the Independent and Republicans like Obama.
The plan is simple, fair, and to the point.

 

 If we don't do it who will?
Teach a mind, change a nation!


How do you know? (0.00 / 0)
How do you know your great grandfather immigrated legally?  

Energy and persistence conquer all things.


Benjamin Franklin


 


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I have the iimmigration records....with his signature. (0.00 / 0)
 You too can look up your ancestery....

 If we don't do it who will?
Teach a mind, change a nation!


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Take it to a Republican site. (0.00 / 0)
Immigration is an issue for them.

Wrong! Immigration is a American Issue! (0.00 / 0)
Sadly perception out weighs reality.
Immigration is a democratic issue as well.

 

 If we don't do it who will?
Teach a mind, change a nation!


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Oh, I'm not American, don't have American values? (0.00 / 1)
Sod off, fella.

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Hey, I'll get full value for my troll ratings! (0.00 / 0)
Fuck off, you ignorant racist fool.

Every poll this cycle shows that the Republican Party is obsessed with immigration and it is about the sixth issue for Dems at the highest.

Peddle your crap somewhere else.


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Thanks, always great to hear from a good Democrat (0.00 / 0)


 If we don't do it who will?
Teach a mind, change a nation!


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That's right, (0.00 / 0)
here in New Hampshire we're eager to deport all the Quebecois that came over about a hundred years ago and worked in the mills which were the economic mainstay of our state.

We want to send back all the Italians and all the Irish that came here before immigration quotas were imposed.

Any body without American Indian blood can go back too, I don't remember the Pequots and Narragansett and Wampanoags issuing immigration visas or granting citizenship to those illegal immigrants from Europe that decided to come here either.  


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Hey, we'll keep the Greeks! (0.00 / 0)
I want my pizza, especially once we've booted the Italians!

My folks, they came down to the BeeBeeShoe in Monshestair.


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So did you read any of the candidates stand on the Immigration Issue? (0.00 / 0)
Or did you just jump at the word "immigration"

I worked the Mills, I am a Union member and a Democrat, These jobs were a mainstay.

mills which were the economic mainstay of our state

 Immigration, Nafta, the north American Union, the super highway that they are building in Texas as we debate this, as well as no border fence built because of BUSH, even though the funds were appropriated..... These are central to the people who live in N.H and the United States.

Hey Democrats.... You have to be aware in order to fight!
Stupidity won't work!

 

 If we don't do it who will?
Teach a mind, change a nation!


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What happens on the Texas border (0.00 / 0)
is not "central to the people who live in N.H."

There is no such thing as a North American Union. The trend indicates possibly a move away from integration, what with the new passport (Leahy was trying to get it delayed until 2009, but it was supposed to go into effect Jan. 1) requirement to re-enter the United States from Canada along with more rigorous customs examinations that have led to delays at the border. This adversely affects the NH tourist industry by deterring Canadians who would otherwise be taking greater advantage of the newly favorable currency conversion rate between US and Canadian dollars, especially in tax free New Hampshire, which looks like a shopping mecca to a Canadian who has to pay both national and provincial sales taxes.

I don't know what a border fence (like the one they had in Berlin, right?) is going to do except waste taxpayer money.


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you missed (0.00 / 0)
a few candidates. Last I knew, there were other Democrats still in the race.

If you're hoping to whip us into a frenzy about undocumented workers, I think you'll be disappointed. The people at BH are better informed than the average Lou Dobbs listener.  

sanctimonious purist/professional lefty


Illegal immigration is an issue Democrats must address (4.00 / 1)
This is an American issue regardless of party. Thanks for making it part of the discussion. Democrats must address the issue of illegal immigration and undocumented workers for three reasons: a) it is a national security issue; b) it is a real problem with Mexico and West/Southwest/Southern states, and c) it is a primary and general election issue that cannot be handed to the Republicans.

Most Americans want to solve the problem in a fair and reasonable way that works for both US and Mexico and addresses the national security, economic, and human rights components of the problem.  

Thanks for posting Obama's, Edwards, and Hillary's plans (Richardson's?). However, you excluded some important pieces of Hillary's plan listed on her website that should be considered:

Hillary understands that our immigration policies have a direct impact on American workers. She opposes a guest worker program that exploits workers and creates a supply of cheap labor that undermines the wages of U.S. workers. Hillary believes all workers deserve safe conditions and decent wages. She supports an Ag Jobs program, which will keep our agricultural industry vibrant while enabling agricultural workers to receive the fair wages and labor protections they ought to receive.

Hillary has advocated for policies to help smooth the transition of legal immigrants once they arrive in the U.S. so that they can add to our economy and culture.

* She championed the Legal Immigrant Children's Health Improvement Act, which would give states the option to provide federally funded Medicaid and SCHIP benefits to low-income legal immigrant children and pregnant women.
* She wrote the Access to Employment and English Acquisition Act to meet the growing demand for English language courses and other job skills.
* She strongly supports the DREAM Act, which provides a path to citizenship through military service or higher education for children who were brought to the U.S. by their parents.
* She offered an amendment to make family reunification the guiding principle of our immigration system.

The three plans are similar; the main difference between the plans is who will actually be able to make the reforms happen. Who will be able to work across the isle and with the states to get reforms in place? I believe Hillary can. I support her plan to reform our immigration system. The only thing I would change is for the plan to be formated into a bullet list on her website.  


Thanks for your excellent comments. (0.00 / 0)
I agree that I left out some of Obama's and Edwards pieces also, mostly because of space and time.... and I wanted to see who would actually read the 3 and see the differences.

 I gather with other Democrats for Debates and Primary night. we watch from start to finish, including the final remarks. We discuss each candidate, and I am finding that most have not sat down and looked at the differences of each candidate.

 Most had not even went to their candidates web page.

At the end of the Iowa caucus I heard so many people ohh and awe at what Obama, said and the way he said it.

They had never taken the time to listen.

Thanks

 If we don't do it who will?
Teach a mind, change a nation!


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