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NH Primary Results and Open Thread

by: Dean Barker

Tue Jan 08, 2008 at 19:44:51 PM EST


63% of Precincts Reporting.  Voter-rich Manch and Nashua for Clinton, as well as working-class towns, according to Dante Scala on NHPR. Pindell deftly notes that college towns Hanover, Plymouth, and Durham not yet in.
Clinton, Hillary Dem 64,743   39%
Obama, Barack Dem 60,322   36%
Edwards, John Dem 27,578   17%
Richardson, Bill Dem 7,889   5%
Kucinich, Dennis Dem 2,415  1%
***************************
McCain, John GOP 49,925   37%
Romney, Mitt GOP 42,288   31%
Huckabee, Mike GOP 15,382   11%
Giuliani, Rudy GOP 11,709   9%
Paul, Ron GOP 10,654   8%
Total Write-ins GOP 2,436   2%
Thompson, Fred GOP 1,613   1%
Hunter, Duncan GOP 697   1%

Me: Ha! Write-ins still are beating Frederick!

This is it folks.  Results stream here, unless I can find a better one. The CNN one here. And an AP one from the Monitor here. (getting jealous of Iowa's excellent Dem party results site)

Update: Town by town results available here from MSNBC.

Let's hear your voting stories in the comments... in my tiny little town, there was a line of voters in mid-morning, a chunk of which looked new to the process.  

I'm standing by my prediction from last night:

I'll say it: Barack Obama is going to win New Hampshire tomorrow by a significant margin, and he will do so in the context of one of the highest voter turnouts our state has seen in years.

But I'll add another: the Democratic party will be the other big winner tonight.  We're staring at a new generation of (probable) lifelong Democrats.

Update: They're calling it for McCain.  How funny is it that Willard lost after spending gobs and gobs and gobs of money here?  And the great GOP car crash continues...

Dean Barker :: NH Primary Results and Open Thread
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Tweety says "sadistic" is Latinate. (4.00 / 1)
Didn't know the Marquis de Sade was a Roman.

Rachel Maddow is wonderful, btw.

And TV is bizarre.


Wow... (0.00 / 0)
Chester turnout, 2008:
828 Democratic
1186 Republican

2000:
277 Democratic
917 Republican


[ Parent ]
yes and (0.00 / 0)

I can't get over how much all the pundits are just IN LOVE with Obama... it's so funny.

~~
I'm an Obama/Edwards/Kucinich/Gravel Democrat.  1968-2008: Hoping this year is different.


[ Parent ]
Keene and Cheshire Co is looking V good for Obama n/t (0.00 / 0)
my contribution to the new generation of Democrats (4.00 / 1)
My 19 year old daughter registered at the poll tonight and voted for the first time. On our walk to the polls, I reviewed the steps. "First, you have to decide whether you'll register as a Democrat or a Republican." She talks about politics less than her sister, so it felt natural to make no assumptions. "Dad! How could you ask that question?! Didn't you raise me? Of course I'm registering as a Democrat!"

 

laughter makes you live longer


Even though not much is in (0.00 / 0)
I am surprised at how well HRC is doing. I would have thought that her poor showing during the debate and recent "incidents" with crying would have negatively affected her but it seems as if it has revealed her personable and more human side which the voters like.

She had been said to be too cold but this seems to have countered it.

Obama/Biden '08


oh dear... (0.00 / 0)
... Senator Clinton isn't my first choice. I'm watching the ticker like a hawk, waiting for the numbers to change to more closely resemble the polls published over the last two days.  

laughter makes you live longer

[ Parent ]
Here's what I'm seeing so far. (0.00 / 0)

Yes, looking at the results by county - what I'm seeing is this:

The independent voters are splitting between Edwards and Obama - so Hillary is 'winning' - but in reality, she's still loosing to Change.


~~
I'm an Obama/Edwards/Kucinich/Gravel Democrat.  1968-2008: Hoping this year is different.


[ Parent ]
Great news about turnout... (4.00 / 1)
you see that as boding well for the Senate race?

Any local angle you can give us on the counties that have reported yet would be AWESOME.

cheers.

k/o


Hey k/o (0.00 / 0)
In 2002, you had fear fear fear, and a demographic for undeclareds that more resembled 2000 numbers, which are the opposite of what we're seeing tonight.

Very roughly:

in 2000, it was 1/3 Dem and 2/3 Repubs, but
in 2008, it is 2/3 Dems and 1/3 Repubs.

So, yeah, Sununu is in serious trouble, at least from a party leaning perspective.

As far as counties reporting, I suspect the smaller rural precincts are reportng first, but I have no data to back that up.


[ Parent ]
I'm wrong (0.00 / 0)
Pindell knows what he's talking about:

... the early returns are almost always from Manchester, a city favorable to Clinton.

Wait for the later returns.



[ Parent ]
What's up with this story? (0.00 / 0)

"Obama and Paul poll workers kicked out of some precincts"

http://www.boston.com/news/loc...

~~
I'm an Obama/Edwards/Kucinich/Gravel Democrat.  1968-2008: Hoping this year is different.


[ Parent ]
This is ridiculous and could have cost Obama the race (0.00 / 0)
It is outrageous, if it is true.  

Politizine.com

[ Parent ]
This is ridiculous and could have cost Obama the race (0.00 / 0)
It is outrageous, if it is true.  

Politizine.com

[ Parent ]
Even if (4.00 / 1)
 Sen. Clinton wins by a few points - she still lost overwhelmingly to the campaigns of change Edwards and Obama.

~~
I'm an Obama/Edwards/Kucinich/Gravel Democrat.  1968-2008: Hoping this year is different.


[ Parent ]
Here's what I know (4.00 / 2)
and I haven't read the Boston story yet - I want to give a real-world view ASAP.

State law recognizes two types of ballot observers: certified observers, recognized and badged by the Secretary of State and/or a political party; and Citizen Observers.

Certified observers can sit behind the voter check-in tables.

Citizen observers cannot. They must stay on the same side of the check-in table as voters who have not yet been given ballots.

In my ward there were Obama observers behind the table. They were citizen observers. Another campaign complained, and they were told to move to a different spot - per state law.


[ Parent ]
Durham (0.00 / 0)
Machine count was 3127 at 7:00PM and there were at least 750 absentee ballots to be counted.  Hadn't even started by 7:40.

And then there's all the write-ins, including for VP.



Dennis is doing better than Fred, too. (4.00 / 1)
And Fred was allowed to debate.

Dennis lost potential votes due to ABC deciding that he was irrelevant for New Hampshire voters. I think New Hampshire will show ABC (and more importantly, Disney) that they do not decide for us.


unofficial results from Jackson (4.00 / 1)
Dems:

Obama - 174
Clinton - 108
Edwards - 52
Richardson - 35
Kucinich - 14

McCain - 103
Romney - 81
Guiliani - 15
Huckabee - 13
Paul - 7

We estimate about a 90% voter turnout.  


WOW (0.00 / 0)
More people in Jackson voted for Dennis Kucinich than Mike Huckabee....

[ Parent ]
that doesn't (0.00 / 0)
surprise me  at all.

We're a nice town full of Democrats.

Mitt's giving a concession speech!

Bye bye Mitt!!


[ Parent ]
MSNBC for Keene (0.00 / 0)
Keene
Candidate   Votes   % of votes
Barack Obama   2,048   41%
Hillary Clinton   1,479   30%
John Edwards   812   16%
Bill Richardson   314   6%
Dennis Kucinich   234   5%
Mike Gravel  7   0%
Joe Biden   6   0%
Chris Dodd   6   0%
80% of precincts reporting

I don't think thats correct atleast the AP dissagrees a lot (0.00 / 0)


Obama/Biden '08

[ Parent ]
Monitor has the same as MSNBC (0.00 / 0)
where are you getting the AP numbers?  Maybe they have the missing ward?

[ Parent ]
I'm using the Monitor. (0.00 / 0)


[ Parent ]
A little spreadsheet math on the results so far: (4.00 / 2)
60% of the ballots cast are Democratic ballots, 40% Republican.

In the 2000 primary it was 60% Republican, 40% Democratic.


Done? (0.00 / 0)
I was expecting you to be counting much longer!  

[ Parent ]
The long, long elections are when (0.00 / 0)
there a lots of write-ins.

That happens in two situations:

  1. One party - or maybe both - doesn't contest a position: Country Treasurer, state rep. Then lots and lots of voters cast write-ins.
  2. The voting instructions confuse people. That happened in 2004, when the instructions on the ballot said "Vote for President and Vice President." About one-third of the voters wrote in a VP choice.

This was only a 12-hour day. When there are lots of write-ins it goes 16.


[ Parent ]
Unofficial Results from Salisbury (4.00 / 1)
Obama 118
HRC 116
Edwards 56

These are unofficial, as they were still reviewing the votes when I left. It sounded like they were 13 votes off somewhere...


Obama wins Concord (0.00 / 0)
Obama: 4367
Clinton: 3898
Edwards: 1750
Richardson: 639
Kucinich: 158

Politizine.com

GOP in Concord (0.00 / 0)
McCain: 2684
Romney: 1577
Huckabee: 781
Paul: 601
Giuliani: 565

Politizine.com

[ Parent ]
So, polls close at 7 PM in Keene. (4.00 / 1)
You could learn that here, or in the Keene Sentinel, or on local radio, or at signs posted all around the city. Or by calling City Hall.

But at 7:15 we had someone saunter in as we were starting the count. "What!?! That's outrageous!"


I knew it was 7:00 (4.00 / 1)
because I was there in 2006, but I did hear "polls close at 8:00" in the national media a few times.

Do you know which ward is missing in the totals at MSNBC and the Monitor?  I saw 1 and 2 before I left town, but 5 did not post immediately after 7:00 as usual.

Ward 2, from memory:

Obama 588
Clinton 402
Edwards 238
Kucinich 102
Richardson 72

McCain 184
Romney 124
Huckabee 72
Paul 50
Giuliani 24
Thompson 9
Hunter 1 (good thing he didn't withdraw this week)


[ Parent ]
Ward 2 (0.00 / 0)
I think that means that Kucinich beat Richardson in my Ward... that helps me feel a little better. I'm really disappointed with Kucinich's standings, I was expecting better.  

[ Parent ]
Those numbers are about right. (0.00 / 0)
Maybe spot on.

He was close to Romney on the other side.


[ Parent ]
I would have thought such incredible record turnout would have given Obama a more decisive victory. (0.00 / 0)
I still think he'll get it, though.

we've got to remember that (0.00 / 0)

Hillary had a 10 point lead in New Hampshire before the Iowa loss.  So if she wins by a few points, it's no "comeback".

Obama has come out of nowhere - even a loss of a few points here will be a huge victory for him in the big picture.

~~
I'm an Obama/Edwards/Kucinich/Gravel Democrat.  1968-2008: Hoping this year is different.


[ Parent ]
A reasonable analysis (0.00 / 0)
But will the media narrative agree?  The blogosphere had written off HRC's chances entirely 48 hours ago, so she is outperforming its expectations.  Doesn't she claim to be Comeback Kid #2, even if BHO pulls out a narrow win?

[ Parent ]
Heck, Bill made second place (4.00 / 1)
after NO Iowa campaign a "comeback."

[ Parent ]
Polls (4.00 / 4)
Will this -- what has happened in Iowa and New Hampshire in both political parties -- once again prove to us to disregard the emphasis on polls?  WMUR and so many other news organizations spend more time on polls than covering issues of "change."  The rest of us shouldn't even be paying attention, and certainly the candidates shouldn't be using polls  to determine what they're going to say or how they're going to say it.  They need more courage than that.

Let's hope so! (0.00 / 0)


Politizine.com

[ Parent ]
I love (4.00 / 1)
Elizabeth Edwards.  She's so great.

Great work by them, great message, honest, positive, issue-based campaign.  Congratulations to all of them, they really earned every single vote.

~~
I'm an Obama/Edwards/Kucinich/Gravel Democrat.  1968-2008: Hoping this year is different.


niiiice n/t (0.00 / 0)


"Poetry is not an expression of the party line. It's that time of night, lying in bed, thinking what you really think, making the private world public, that's what the poet does." Allen Ginsberg

[ Parent ]
re Clinton mailer on abortion rights (0.00 / 0)
My NH friend told me today that she had received a mailer that said Obama opposed abortion rights, so she would be voting for Hillary.

I sent her the following info and she changed her mind back to Obama.

But it looks like the Hillary gang decided to take the low road - surprise, surprise:

From HuffingtonPost.com:

During his eight years in the legislature, Obama cast a number of votes on abortion and received a 100 percent rating from the Illinois Planned Parenthood Council for his support of abortion rights, family planning services and health insurance coverage for female contraceptives.  He voted against requiring medical care for aborted fetuses who survive, a vote that especially riled abortion opponents.  He also joined other state Democrats in voting present on some bills.

From DailyKos.com:

A new AP story just came out that says that the Clinton campaign has sent out a mailer in NH that criticizes Obama on abortion rights. The mailer basically says that "seven times during his time in the Illinois state Senate, Obama declined to take a position on abortion bills," while Clinton has been a defender of abortion rights.  

It's really sad to see Clinton go down this sorry route and try to undermine Obama's support among young women.   As most people know, during the eight years Obama was a state legislator he received a 100 percent rating from the Illinois Planned Parenthood Council for his support of abortion rights, family planning services and health insurance coverage for female contraceptives.  We need to reject these Clinton personal attacks and expose them for what they are -- the politics of old, the politics of Penn, and the politics that will not get you elected President.  Boo to Clinton.


We got another anti-Obama mailer today ... (0.00 / 0)
Hillary claiming Obama was supporting "A plan with a trillion dollar tax increase on America's hard-working families." Pathetic. She is such a liar.  

Politizine.com

[ Parent ]
AP calls it for Hillary (0.00 / 0)
per NHPR this minute.

Obama's supporters are still hoping the college towns (which have suburbs: Lebanon and Plainfield share a lot of Hanover voting patterns) tip him over.

I'll be posting in the next day or two about Obama's big strategic mistake here. It's really remarkable that he didn't quite win over any of the front-pagers here, or me for that matter.

It was calculated positioning. Here it was miscalculation.


Ummm... (0.00 / 0)
...that will be interesting.  I'm looking forward to it.

[ Parent ]
I agree (0.00 / 0)
Serious miscalculations. Like not having poll checkers to make sure your ID voters got out to vote. Of course, there are rumors that Clinton's lawyers requested poll checkers be removed from the polling locations. Then, there is the issue of same-day voting fraud, and whether or not Massachusetts residents came to New Hampshire and registered to vote.  

Politizine.com

[ Parent ]
Hey, pal. (0.00 / 0)
Respond to my earlier comment on this before spreading the slime.

And no, there isn't any question of voting fraud that I'm aware of.


[ Parent ]
What about Voter Fraud with the Diebold Machines? (0.00 / 0)
 Google Voter Fraud and New Hampshire... Clinton.

Major allegations of vote fraud in New Hampshire
Major allegations of vote fraud in New Hampshire are circulating after Hillary Clinton reversed a mammoth pre-polling deficit to defeat Barack Obama with the aid of Diebold electronic voting machines
Posted January 9th, 2008 by boston911truth.org


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