Quote of the Day: Reconciliation

Joe Foster not a candidate for reelection (0.00 / 0)

Bette Lasky looking to succeed him.

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by: Alex Gallichon @ Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:28:44 AM CDT

Whoops, I thought this was an open thread (0.00 / 0)

for some reason....

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by: Alex Gallichon @ Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:43:16 AM CDT

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Err (0.00 / 0)

Maybe because it is

I thought my above post was not germane because what Doug said echoes the diary message.

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by: Alex Gallichon @ Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:44:53 AM CDT

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To Clinton supporters, (0.00 / 0)

The primary was about candidates, but the general is about all of us.  We've had our differences, but no hard feelings to even the most fervent supporters.

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by: Douglas E. Lindner @ Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:40:21 AM CDT

Two to tango... (4.00 / 2)

Obama supporters must open the doors and put on the tea, but only the Clinton supporters can walk through the door and sit at the table.

Not as smart as I think I am, but not as dumb as I look.

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by: epm @ Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 12:51:27 PM CDT

and... (0.00 / 0)

the article says that too.

It won't be easy, but let's hope that tonight, after the voting ends in South Dakota and Montana, Hillary Clinton starts the work of unifying the Democratic party.  Let's hope she starts to tell her supporters that the way they can support the ideals she espoused and the aspirations they wanted to see realized through her candidacy are best pursued by unifying around Barack Obama.

I picked the Obama half of the equation based on his strong support on BH.

Hope > Fear




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by: Mike Hoefer @ Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 13:23:24 PM CDT

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It is impressive that nearly all the supporters of Edwards, Richardson, and Dodd on BH have either gone to Obama or stayed neutral since their candidate dropped out. (0.00 / 0)

Forgive me, Biden, Kucinich, and Gravel supporters, I don't think any of our most prolific posters supported any of those three, but I'm not demeaning them--I actually really like Biden.

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by: Douglas E. Lindner @ Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 13:28:55 PM CDT

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Obama Rocks (4.00 / 8)

As I've said for months and months, I think Barack Obama would make a great President, and I can get excited about his nomination.  I've supported Hillary Clinton since before she announced, and I think she would have made a great President.

I hold out hope for an Obama/Clinton ticket, but if that's not to be I'm sure Barack Obama will find a winning running mate.  

This election, in the final analysis, isn't about Democrats or Obama or Clinton -- it's about our future, and stopping the unneeded killing of thousands and thousands of people in Iraq, including the more than 4,000 of our brave American soldiers.  

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by: Rep. Jim Splaine @ Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 13:31:35 PM CDT

Not opponents. (0.00 / 0)

I am going to continue to object to the candidates for a position being referred to as opponents.  The selection of a person for public office is not a pugilistic contest, even if that frame is what the media prefer.
We have a real problem in this country with "false attribution of agency."  As a result, many people are often in the dark about who's responsible for doing what.

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by: hannah @ Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 12:38:26 PM CDT

Some candidates (0.00 / 0)

do oppose the election of their rivals.

Under the Westminster system, the party out of power is officially the Opposition. In American English, referring to the loyal opposition is also accepted use when Congress and the Presidency are held by different parties.

The dictionary that comes with my Mac (New American Oxford Dictionary) gives the etymology as follows:

For opponent,
"ORIGIN late 16th cent. (denoting a person opening an academic debate by proposing objections to a philosophical or religious thesis): from Latin opponent- 'setting against,' from the verb opponere, from ob- 'against' + ponere 'place.'"

For oppose,
"ORIGIN late Middle English : from Old French opposer, from Latin opponere (see opponent ), but influenced by Latin oppositus 'set or placed against' and Old French poser 'to place.'"

Politics may not usually be a place for fist fights, but it is frequently a place for opposition and therefore opponents.

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by: Alex Gallichon @ Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 13:44:23 PM CDT

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Excellent Linguistic Analysis (0.00 / 0)

Use of the unit of language "opponent" in the political sphere is perfectly appropriate, and, one might say, a more appropriate place than in sports, given the origin cited!  



"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."  Franklin D. Roosevelt    

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by: Kathy Sullivan 2 @ Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 14:58:42 PM CDT

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In a philosophical debate or ideological discussion, (0.00 / 0)

opposition is appropriate.  However, a candidate seeking to be elected should be orientated towards the people making the selection, rather than the other candidates.
The argument that one person should be selected because he/she's not the other candidate has little merit.  

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by: hannah @ Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 15:58:50 PM CDT

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Aaagghhh!!!! (0.00 / 0)

"Oriented", not "orientated"!

"Orientated" is not a word!  It is a corrupt and perverse back-formation from "orientation," created and perpetuated by sheep rustlers, communists, halfwits who say "nucular" and other enemies of humanity.

It's like saying, "He observated the flood from his airplane window," or "The fire-breathing monster burninated the peasants," or "Chain-smoking affectated her singing voice," or "Hillary was sure she was destinated to be President."

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by: Tim C. @ Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 02:40:37 AM CDT

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Yo, gammar police (0.00 / 0)

If Bad can hold his blog when I use "then" instead of "than", you can bear this shirley. Some of us ain't that edumacated, but we are trying.

Whack-a-mole, anyone?

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by: Jack Mitchell @ Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 07:07:00 AM CDT

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Rule (0.00 / 0)

When engaged in a debate over the proper use of units of language, be careful not to misuse units of language in said debate.

Energy and persistence conquer all things.


Benjamin Franklin


 

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by: Kathy Sullivan @ Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 08:03:11 AM CDT

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The Pirate's Code (0.00 / 0)

It's more Arrrrrgh!, than Aaagghh!

BLOG ON!


Whack-a-mole, anyone?

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by: Jack Mitchell @ Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 08:21:29 AM CDT

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I noticed in the latest "Indiana Jones" (0.00 / 0)

that Harrison Ford, playing a 1950's era character who hols a tenured professorship in archeology, pronounces "nuclear" as "nucular," and "library" as "liberry."

Oy.  

birch, finch, beech

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by: Dean Barker @ Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 18:29:38 PM CDT

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opponent v. oppose (4.00 / 2)

nothing other than ripping off the same Latin verb (ob + ponere) from two different places:

opponent - derived from the present active participle opponens, opponentis.

oppose - derived from the perfect passive participle oppositus, - a,  - um.

Either roughly meaning "placed against [one another]".

birch, finch, beech

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by: Dean Barker @ Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 21:11:02 PM CDT

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I thought it was kind of interesting (0.00 / 0)

that we have record of "oppose" long before we have "opponent" in English.

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by: Alex Gallichon @ Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 21:33:54 PM CDT

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That is interesting... (4.00 / 1)

but I'm not sure it points to a trend of the perfect passive form being adopted in English prior to the present active one in words derived from Latin verbs.

More likely that someone in the 16th century failed to know a perfectly good word, and so crafted a new one that took flight.

birch, finch, beech

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by: Dean Barker @ Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 18:32:59 PM CDT

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sticks and brcikbats n/t (0.00 / 0)

Annie 2012!

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by: JonnyBBad @ Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 08:44:59 AM CDT

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