Katrina is against the Stupak amendment; more on Testerman

Ummmm...I Do Know That At Times... (0.00 / 0)

...that it seemed like we were fighting a ghost at the public hearings.  They were always saying they were speaking for others.  And on the radio and television debates I had with Kevin Smith, it did sometimes seem he was saying one thing, but meaning another.  Maybe this is the explanation?  

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by: Rep. Jim Splaine @ Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 07:17:23 AM CST

Swett Article on Stupak in Concord Monitor, Too (4.00 / 1)

http://www.concordmonitor.com/...

Letter

Amendment infringes on women's rights  
Katrina Swett, Bow  

For the Monitor  
December 10, 2009

I have been watching with great hope and a bit of trepidation the progress of the most important health care reform initiative of the past three decades. The hope comes from the successful action in the U.S. House of Representatives to pass a health care reform bill; the trepidation comes from the Stupak Amendment which, to my dismay, was adopted as part of the bill passed in the House.

The effect of the Stupak Amendment would be to significantly curtail women's access to health care coverage for the full range of reproductive services. As someone who is pro-choice, I oppose this amendment and hope the Senate will reject attempts to adopt a similar measure. It is vital that we achieve meaningful health care reform, but it should be done in a way that does not infringe upon the rights of our citizens.

KATRINA SWETT
Bow

 

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by: Dartmouth Dem @ Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 10:35:24 AM CST

Fill me in (0.00 / 0)

What did Swett do that turned off choice voters in the first place? I only got bits 'n pieces. Just enough to know she was in trouble.

This letter will certainly begin the recovery.

www.KusterforCongress.com - www.paulhodesforsenate.com

www.nikitsongas.com - www.devalpatrick.com

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by: Jack Mitchell @ Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 10:49:20 AM CST

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Filled In (4.00 / 1)

Katrina Swett ran for office once previously -- in 2002.  I served as her Research and Policy Director in that campaign, and can assure you that she made her pro-choice stance pretty damn clear back then, as well as her opposition to the Hyde Amendment.  So her letter is no surprise.

Katrina received considerable support from pro-choice voters in 2002.  If she runs in 2010, as it looks like she well, I would expect the same.

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by: Dartmouth Dem @ Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 11:13:41 AM CST

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No harm in answering the question (0.00 / 0)

It's clear that you think whatever kerfuffle (sp?) Jack is referring to was unfair. But you left the question hanging in the air, giving it more emphasis.

Maybe Jack is misinformed, and there was no kerfuffle at all?

I just work here ...

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by: JimC @ Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 11:21:47 AM CST

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Not unfair (4.00 / 1)

Brother Jack asked a question, and I answered it based on my personal knowledge of the issue at hand.  No harm, no foul.  

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by: Dartmouth Dem @ Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 11:25:01 AM CST

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So in other words (0.00 / 0)

You don't know the answer.

But you thought you'd make a righteous statement about it.

Got it, thanks.

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by: JimC @ Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 11:26:07 AM CST

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"Righteous"???? (0.00 / 0)

One paragraph clarifying the history of Katrina Swett's position on choice, based on my experience.  The other affirming that she was supported by many in the choice community in 2002.  

As for the "question", I can't address gossip which isn't shared with me.  (I do see that Jack is perpetuating said gossip below.)

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by: Dartmouth Dem @ Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 11:33:58 AM CST

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Please see below (0.00 / 0)

I'll retract the term righteous.

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by: JimC @ Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 11:36:16 AM CST

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Perpetuator (0.00 / 0)

It's a call and response thing.

I'm certainly not inventing this meme. Honestly, there is a perception that Swett is "squishy" on the issue. I don't know any more than that, but the above OpEd is an indicator that her "campaign" knows this, as well.


www.KusterforCongress.com - www.paulhodesforsenate.com

www.nikitsongas.com - www.devalpatrick.com

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by: Jack Mitchell @ Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 11:41:42 AM CST

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No (0.00 / 0)

I don't know any more than that, but the above OpEd is an indicator that her "campaign" knows this, as well.

I can't speak to Katrina's motives, but. . . It seems to be an indicator that she has a strong view on this issue and would like to share it, just as she has on a vast array of other issues in her 20 years in New Hampshire public life.

Don't mean to be snippy with you -- I trust that you are asking this question openly and honestly.  But if you want to know the source of rumors and gossip, you'd be better off going to the people spreading them.

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by: Dartmouth Dem @ Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 11:48:34 AM CST

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My first day blogging (0.00 / 0)

You think, today?

If the OpEd is not staged for her "all but formal" campaign, I'll move to NH2 and give her my vote.

We are witnessing the "Roooooooooooooooooooooollllllllllll Out" of the decade. How do I know this? Because ANYONE that follows politics would know, Swett will get no do overs after this.

She is one race away from being the dreaded "perennial candidate." She is in a "can not fail" situation.

www.KusterforCongress.com - www.paulhodesforsenate.com

www.nikitsongas.com - www.devalpatrick.com

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by: Jack Mitchell @ Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 12:00:03 PM CST

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To be clear (0.00 / 0)

I didn't say you said Jack's question was unfair.

I said it seemed to me that you think the episode he's referring to had an unfair result. If so, please explain why that happened, if you know. Thanks.

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by: JimC @ Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 11:35:04 AM CST

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Sorry. I should have asked someone else. (0.00 / 0)

It wasn't fair to put you on the spot like that.

Something happened. Or she didn't make it as clear as you thought.

Important to note, she is on the right side of the issue, now. Like Lieberman. I am all for the whole "room to grow" thing. Well, usually.

www.KusterforCongress.com - www.paulhodesforsenate.com

www.nikitsongas.com - www.devalpatrick.com

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by: Jack Mitchell @ Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 11:26:43 AM CST

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Calling Bullshit (0.00 / 0)

Important to note, she is on the right side of the issue, now.

I have informed you of Katrina Swett's position on federal funding in 2002.  We have previously discussed her expressed support for this view at a candidate forum in the spring.  And you have acknowledged her statement above.

Please provide a single scintilla of evidence that Katrina opposed federal funding at any point in her public career.  If not, your "now" comment is, well, bullshit.

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by: Dartmouth Dem @ Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 11:36:59 AM CST

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Not Bullshit (4.00 / 1)

Just under resourced.

From my comment above:

I'm certainly not inventing this meme. Honestly, there is a perception that Swett is "squishy" on the issue. I don't know any more than that, but the above OpEd is an indicator that her "campaign" knows this, as well.

I will now state that, IMHO, Katrina Swett would meet every accepted metric applied to the brand "pro-choice."

www.KusterforCongress.com - www.paulhodesforsenate.com

www.nikitsongas.com - www.devalpatrick.com

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by: Jack Mitchell @ Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 11:46:01 AM CST

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I call spin (4.00 / 1)

You keep redirecting the question. I don't know why you don't recognize that I'm trying to give you a chance to clear the air on this. I have no dog in this fight except Blue Hampshire -- and your answers smack of spin.

The question, again:

There is a "meme" that Katrina has a problem on the choice issue. Why is that? Is it unfair? Is it the work of Republicans? If you don't know the answers or are not willing to discuss them, fine, but please, don't repeat your mantra. It's not helpful or all that informative.

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by: JimC @ Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 11:50:01 AM CST

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just because someone can't find an utterance (4.00 / 2)

does not make them worthy of the sobriquet Bullshit. I remember some kerfuffling on Dick's position on voting in favor of banning late term abortions, and possibly because of some LDS religious position....but that is seen through a glass darkly 1996 pre-intertubes kind of way...in any case she was associated with his positions because of both she and her father's active roles in managing Dick's campaigns. her current position is definitely more in line with her Jewish roots, and for that matter most Prostestant denominations, like the one that Dick was raised in.

It's an individual thing, and people in politics also change their positions over time,for a variety of reasons, personal, political, and professional. Look at how Romney became the John Kerry of the Massachusetts Republican party by being for choice, before he was against it. He took one position then another as the situation dictated. Perhaps his earlier position was more true to his heart ? His mother ran for U.S. Senate as a pro-choice candidate, and at the time, running against Ted, he claimed to have taken her positions.
When he ran for the Gop'er nod, he became a little more to the right of Karen Testerman.
Katrina is not and never has been anything like that. She has a good comment I thought only one criticism of the release. She should be doing something like we do ...blogg it live here for instance...rather than watching from the sidelines. Now that her roll-out is done, she is in it without declaring. Half in is out. Watching through a glass darkly?

It was a creed written into the founding documents

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by: JonnyBBad @ Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 11:57:44 AM CST

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My last comment on this (4.00 / 1)

just because someone can't find an utterance does not make them worthy of the sobriquet Bullshit.

Yes, it does.  If I said that Jon Bresler loves the Red Sox, but could find no "utterances" to support that assertion, then that would be bullshit.

Jack implied that Katrina Swett had changed her position on federal funding of abortions(see above).  That is not true.  It is contradicted by fact.  And it is bullshit.  

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by: Dartmouth Dem @ Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 12:06:40 PM CST

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Not in the original question (4.00 / 1)

What did Swett do that turned off choice voters in the first place? I only got bits 'n pieces. Just enough to know she was in trouble.

You had an opportunity to answer that directly, and passed on it.
 

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by: JimC @ Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 12:12:41 PM CST

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My answer (4.00 / 1)

Don't mean to be snippy with you -- I trust that you are asking this question openly and honestly.  But if you want to know the source of rumors and gossip, you'd be better off going to the people spreading them.

This is self-explanatory. . . . Now I really must go back to work.  I have nothing new to add on this, even though I'm tempted to respond to JB's bizarre religious stereotyping above.

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by: Dartmouth Dem @ Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 12:16:25 PM CST

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Thanks for answering (0.00 / 0)

Maybe we can take the direct route next time, not the scenic route. :)

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by: JimC @ Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 12:31:35 PM CST

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I'll concede (4.00 / 2)

I wrote:

Important to note, she is on the right side of the issue, now. Like Lieberman.

There is an inference that she changed her position on choice, like she did with regards to supporting Lieberman.

I do not know her past position. What I started talking about was the public perception of her position which, to a candidate, is vital.

In the midst of my commenting I drifted into a place that fixed her position. My original point was not "What was her position?" but "Where did the confusion come from?"

www.KusterforCongress.com - www.paulhodesforsenate.com

www.nikitsongas.com - www.devalpatrick.com

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by: Jack Mitchell @ Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 12:33:24 PM CST

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if you said (0.00 / 0)

you could prove it, or why say it, right?
I am unhappy with the Lowell trade. The guy is a brick in the wall, and he got sh*tcanned for a minor leaguer...talk about gratitude.

It was a creed written into the founding documents

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by: JonnyBBad @ Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 12:17:46 PM CST

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Gotta free up salary (4.00 / 2)

for Matsui.

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by: JimC @ Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 12:32:35 PM CST

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who had (0.00 / 0)

the second most homers off righties last year, after Teixera ?
and the Yanks gave gatz(sp?)

http://doublegsports.sportspag...

Yankees receive: Curtis Granderson
Diamondbacks receive: Edwin Jackson, Ian Kennedy
Tigers receive: Austin Jackson, Max Scherzer, Phil Coke, Daniel Schlereth

I am a big fan of this trade for the Yankees. It was a very good move that greatly improved their lineup. Granderson will be 29 years old when the season starts and he has a very good contract. His current contract is 3 years, $23.75 million. Granderson is a guy that can and will use his speed and power to do a lot of damage. Being a lefty that likes to pull the ball, Granderson will fit perfectly into Yankee Stadium. He certainly has the ability to consistently hit 25-30 home runs each year.

vs. Godzilla with shaky legs...great dh but can't filed or run much...the golden sunset of his career

It was a creed written into the founding documents

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by: JonnyBBad @ Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 12:39:20 PM CST

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Golden sunset (4.00 / 1)

I hope so.

Ah, who am I kidding? Cashman would never ...

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by: JimC @ Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 12:46:21 PM CST

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whoa baby (4.00 / 2)

One, two, three, four...
Hrmm!
One, two, (one, two, three, four!)

Let me tell you how it will be;
There's one for you, nineteen for me.
'Cause I'm the Cashman,
Yeah, I'm the Cashman.

Should five per cent appear too small,
Be thankful I don't take it all.
'Cause I'm the Cashman,
Yeah baby, I'm the Cashman.  

It was a creed written into the founding documents

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by: JonnyBBad @ Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 14:55:44 PM CST

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Adding (4.00 / 1)

Full disclosure re: having no dog, from what I know, I would be inclined to support Kuster. But I have no vote in New Hampshire, so for me this is more about not settling for spin on Blue Hampshire. I'd say the same if a Kuster or DeJoie person were (in my opinion) spinning.

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by: JimC @ Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 11:57:49 AM CST

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Does your dog bite ? (4.00 / 3)

It was a creed written into the founding documents

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by: JonnyBBad @ Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 12:16:13 PM CST

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rounding up (4.00 / 1)

2.9141414...etc.

It was a creed written into the founding documents

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by: JonnyBBad @ Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 15:47:40 PM CST

Are we there yet? n/t (4.00 / 1)

www.KusterforCongress.com - www.paulhodesforsenate.com

www.nikitsongas.com - www.devalpatrick.com

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by: Jack Mitchell @ Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 16:14:01 PM CST

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Back to the Subject (0.00 / 0)

On reproductive rights, I am not sure about Katrina's position. I have some vague memory of her being, like Dick, against late term abortions and against federal funding. Is this correct or not?

No'm Sayn?

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by: BurtCohen @ Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 20:03:55 PM CST