Open Thread: post-primary

NH Senate update (4.00 / 2)

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h/t Grant Bosse  NH SEN UPDATE- AP had the race at Ayotte + 1635 with 40 precincts remaining. I've added Derry and Windham, which narrows it to Ayotte +1297.

Significant towns left: Dover, Milford, most of Berlin, South Hampton, Warner, New Boston, Hollis. Anyone have those results?

Annie 2012!

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by: JonnyBBad @ Wed Sep 15, 2010 at 09:04:50 AM CDT

What triggers a recount? n/t (4.00 / 1)

Whack-a-mole, anyone?

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by: Jack Mitchell @ Wed Sep 15, 2010 at 09:19:28 AM CDT

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A non-winner asking for it. n/t (0.00 / 0)

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by: Tim C. @ Wed Sep 15, 2010 at 09:52:54 AM CDT

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Correct (0.00 / 0)

There is no "automatic" recount provision in NH law. If a candidate is within 20% of the next candidate they have until 5 pm today to request a recount. A request that can be cancelled at anytime.

2012 starts today.

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by: Ray Buckley @ Wed Sep 15, 2010 at 10:07:57 AM CDT

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5 pm? (0.00 / 0)

What if the count isn't finished until 1 pm or later? It should be based off the finish day. Not the calendar, imo.

I heard the nutties are saying the pro-Ayotte faction stuffed the ballot boxes when Ovide started to creep. How long until Nancy Tobi swings in?

Ovide has some backers that won't simply lay down. Casmpaigns are an investment for these types. Why wouldn't they invest a little more?

Who brought popcorn?


Whack-a-mole, anyone?

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by: Jack Mitchell @ Wed Sep 15, 2010 at 10:25:21 AM CDT

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Recount procedures are a mess because (4.00 / 1)

of a new federal law requiring that general election absentee ballots be mailed by Saturday. That makes late primaries - like here and in Massachusetts - logistically difficult.

There used to be a longer window to decide on asking.

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by: elwood @ Wed Sep 15, 2010 at 21:30:50 PM CDT

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a winner could ask for one too (0.00 / 0)

It looks like a winner could ask for a recount as well.  I am not sure why a winner would do such a thing--- unless he or she was an advocate of hand-counted ballots.  Or, unless he or she was being accused of election fraud and thought a recount might increase confidence in the results.


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by: TimothyHorrigan @ Wed Sep 15, 2010 at 10:15:33 AM CDT

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I can tell you this... (4.00 / 1)

If this is any help, Ayotte won the next town over from Dover, i.e., Durham, by a 53-vote margin.  Most of the votes left uncounted are in Dover & Milford.  I should think she will lose Milford while winning Dover.

As a Democrat, I would rather see Ayotte lose, since she matches up much worse against Hodes.  As a citizen of New Hampshire, I like Ovide better.  But it doesn't matter: Hodes can and WILL beat either opponent.

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by: TimothyHorrigan @ Wed Sep 15, 2010 at 10:21:44 AM CDT

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and Derry as well (0.00 / 0)

NHPR.org (as of 11:40am) show Derry being out as well.  Derry is one of the biggest cities in the state, even though it's a town.  It's bigger than Dover (and of course it is a Republican stronghold.)

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by: TimothyHorrigan @ Wed Sep 15, 2010 at 10:41:31 AM CDT

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It make absolutely no sense that ANY town or city's results (4.00 / 2)

are not public by now.  

2012 starts today.

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by: Ray Buckley @ Wed Sep 15, 2010 at 11:00:00 AM CDT

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At 12:32 pm, 1126 vote spread. (4.00 / 2)

270/301 precincts
Ayotte 48,272
Lamontagne 47,146

Still out:
Acworth
Belmont
Benton
Bristol
Carroll
Cornish
Dalton
Derry
Effingham
Freedom
Greenland
Hart's Location
Holderness
Hollis
Lisbon
Lyndeborough
Milford
New Boston
New Castle
Piermont
Salisbury
Sharon
South Hampton
Sutton
Swanzey
Walpole
Warner
Wentworth's Location

Not quite enough Voter McNuggets in there for Ovide, I fear.

Still, if it narrows at all, it'd be irresponsible of him not to ask for a recount, for his supporters' sake at least.

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by: Tim C. @ Wed Sep 15, 2010 at 11:37:34 AM CDT

Sad piece of news ..... (0.00 / 0)

HAIL and FAREWELL to the veteran NBC newsman and author Edwin Newman who has died at the age of 91.

In his 1974 book Strictly Speaking - he wrote that when TV executives spoke to him with "Ya know" said numerous times, his response was "If I know, then why are you telling me?" But after having to "eat lunch alone frequently, I dropped that practice".

In 1984, he appeared on the network as a host of Saturday Night Live - where one of the show's sketches portrayed a distraught woman phoning a suicide hot line. Mr. Newman answers - and corrects her grammar.

RIP, Ed.


 "We should pay attention to that man behind the curtain."

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by: Ed Tracey @ Wed Sep 15, 2010 at 11:40:57 AM CDT

Was OBrien's write-in campaign successful? (0.00 / 0)

Or did he hopefully fail?

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by: Putney Swope @ Wed Sep 15, 2010 at 12:06:12 PM CDT

Fail (4.00 / 4)

He got 8 Democratic write-ins, 5 from his home town of Mont Vernon and 3 from New Boston. Zero from the other three towns: Temple, Wilton and Lyndeborough.

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by: Jennifer Daler @ Wed Sep 15, 2010 at 12:33:18 PM CDT

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Excellent! (0.00 / 0)

I wonder how much that mailer cost him?



"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."  Franklin D. Roosevelt    

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by: Kathy Sullivan 2 @ Wed Sep 15, 2010 at 12:59:17 PM CDT

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Cynthia Dokmo lost! (0.00 / 0)

Long term moderate Amherst Republican Rep. Cynthia Dokmo lost yesterday. http://www.nashuatelegraph.com...

The conservatives had been unsuccessfully trying to get rid of Cynthia for years, calling her a RINO.

This is a loss for moderation and bipartisanship.

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by: Putney Swope @ Wed Sep 15, 2010 at 12:43:45 PM CDT

Tony DiFruscia too (0.00 / 0)

Tony DiFruscia lost in the Salem-Windham district, as did fellow Republican incumbent Margaret Crisler.  


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by: TimothyHorrigan @ Wed Sep 15, 2010 at 13:32:24 PM CDT

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and Russell Ingram (0.00 / 0)

I forgot about Russell Ingram: he was a 3rd incumbent from Salem-Windham who lost.

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by: TimothyHorrigan @ Wed Sep 15, 2010 at 16:04:39 PM CDT

several House incumbents lost: (0.00 / 0)

It was not a great day for incumbents even in the NH State House of Representatives (although I won, thank you very much).  These 8 incumbents lost their primaries, whjch is lot considering that there weren't that many contested primaries:

Paul Ingersoll (D-Coos 4)
Cynthia Dokmo (R-Hillsborough 6) [pending a recount; she missed by 2 votes]
Richard Komi (D- Hillsborough 12)
Jayne Spaulding (R-Hillsborough 18)
Clinton Bailey (R-Rockingham 3)
Russ Ingram; Tony DiFruscia & Margaret Crisler (R-Rockingham 4)

This does not include Dennis Vachon who retired but then ran for his old seat as a write-in because his replacement has some  family issues.  I don't know how his race turned out, but his effort was up a very steep hill.

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by: TimothyHorrigan @ Wed Sep 15, 2010 at 21:23:58 PM CDT

about Vachon (0.00 / 0)

Dennis Vachon's write-in campaign was not entirely unsuccessful, but he still fell 200 votes or so behind.  The woman who he is trying to replace, Alice Surago, does consider herself to be medically incapacitated and has submitted an affidavit to that effect to the Secretary of State.


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by: TimothyHorrigan @ Sat Sep 18, 2010 at 07:07:52 AM CDT

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Which the SoS rejected (0.00 / 0)

Although the statute only requires an affidavit from the candidate as to the incapacitating disability, the Secretary of
State rejected it because he wanted a doctor's letter. The Ballot Law Commission correctly overruled him this morning, as he can't impose criteria that are not included in the law. So, she is now off the ballot and the party can select a replacement.  



"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."  Franklin D. Roosevelt    

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by: Kathy Sullivan 2 @ Sat Sep 18, 2010 at 10:04:12 AM CDT

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Congratulations to the wisdom of the Ballot Law Commission... (0.00 / 0)

once again!

2012 starts today.

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by: Ray Buckley @ Sat Sep 18, 2010 at 10:37:24 AM CDT

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Ayotte margin was 1,667 votes (0.00 / 0)

... according to some news in another window that I closed. Why didn't Ovide ask for a recount? Did he say?

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by: JimC @ Wed Sep 15, 2010 at 21:42:26 PM CDT