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Frank Guinta Scandal Convergence

by: Dean Barker

Wed Oct 06, 2010 at 21:40:37 PM EDT


Despite an impressive record of brawling with the truth, there's no question that Frank Guinta's biggest mystery is the $355,000 dollars he funneled to his campaign that he is either unable or unwilling to prove is his own money, though all it would take is a simple copy of a bank statement.

Many Republicans, including former Congressman Jeb Bradley and former NHGOP Chair Fergus Cullen, raised the alarm over this during the primary.  Now the media are beginning to step in, with coverage from the Telegraph, the Union Leader, the Monitor, and NHPR.

Unrelatedly, at the debate last week, when Carol Shea-Porter asked him whether or not he had taken out student loans, he denied that he had. He lied about that.

Here's the thing.  If Guinta had taken loans out from the NHHEAF Network, as he later admitted, then they were likely subsidized loans from the government. Students must "demonstrate financial need" in order to secure this most common kind of student loan. To be eligible, one must fill out the FAFSA form, which then determines your EFC:

The Expected Family Contribution (EFC) is the way a family's ability to pay for college is calculated. The formula for determining eligibility for federal aid programs is the same across all colleges. When you apply for financial aid, expect to answer questions about your family's income and savings.  Most of this information is readily available from your tax returns, paycheck stubs, and bank and other financial account statements.

So, one of three things appears to have to be true. Frank Guinta either: a) earned somewhere between $250,000 and $500,000 after his time in higher education (while Alderman?, Mayor?, etc...), or b) bizarrely, took out an unsubsidized loan despite clearly not demonstrating financial need, or c) is not telling the truth, and consequently a huge sum of someone else's money found its way into his campaign illegally.

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Elementary my dear Watson (0.00 / 0)
C.

16 Days







Have you written a letter to the editor today? Have you donated today? Have you put up signs? Have you made calls? Have you talked to your neighbors?  


Inveighing against fraud. (0.00 / 0)
When conservative pols inveigh against government programs that are susceptible to fraud and then it turns out they themselves committed a fraud, that's not hypocrisy.  That's the voice of experience talking. And doing so without shame for the simple reason that it's the program which is to blame for putting temptation in their way.

If there were no government contracts, they couldn't be inflated.  So, let's get rid of government contracts and simply pay what the vendors ask.  Less paper work and more efficient all around.


Now the question is (0.00 / 0)
do the voters of NH care if their representatives are corrupt, or not?  I always hear, and people tell ME to my face, that all politicians are "dirty."  I ask them that if they drive the honest people out of politics, what do they think they will get for representation?  So many people say they can't stand the nastiness, but they don't do anything about it, they just withdraw and complain.  
Somehow we have to get across to people that the alternative to actually working at getting good representation is an oligarchy or a dictatorship.  If you don't take responsibility for your government, there are people out there who would be delighted to take it off your hands entirely.  However, you may not like what they do with it, because given all that power they will use it to THEIR advantage, not ours.  

Remind them that if universal suffrage can't be undone, (0.00 / 0)
the next best thing is to depress voter turnout by other means.  Harassment on election day isn't enough.  So, there has to be a constant drumbeat to create disgust and keep people from turning out.  The only way punitive conservatives win is if good people stay home.

Bad behavior is part of their script for gaining power.  


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Wow (0.00 / 0)
Perhaps a reporter will ask him about that. Perhaps his spokesman will have to say something other than its his personal businesss.



"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."  Franklin D. Roosevelt    


And: (0.00 / 0)
A quick call to a financial aid officer at a college could probably tell you what the EFC would be for someone with a 250-500k bank account, and whether or not that EFC would make one eligible for loans.

So the possible timeframe of Guinta's mystery money could easily be determined by a reporter that way.

birch, finch, beech


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call made (4.00 / 2)
decision is based on income not wealth..."people take loans for lots of reasons...some from need, some just because they want to. If he has loans(???),and they are being serviced, then it is not an issue. There is a level of privacy that borrowers expect from the College they apply to.
If a loan is subsidized, it may be a different matter.But if after taking a loan, someone comes into money that is not prohibitive."

16 Days







Have you written a letter to the editor today? Have you donated today? Have you put up signs? Have you made calls? Have you talked to your neighbors?  


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Time Line/Subsidized (4.00 / 3)
So, the new question is, were the loans subsidized?  

He told the UL that he started opening up mystery bank accounts in 1996, but, according to his 2000 state rep disclosure, he had no income of more than $10,000 the prior two years, which brings him back to June, 1998. Unless he had a job he forgot about.

So, that still begs the question - where did the money come from to produce the $355,000 he has loaned/contributed to his campaign? On top of the $50,000 he donated to his mayoral campaign?



"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."  Franklin D. Roosevelt    


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Yes, but: (4.00 / 1)
As Kathy said, this speaks to whether or not the loan was subsidized.  

If your EFC comes out to show that you are at "demonstrated financial need", then you can apply for one, I believe.  And I'm pretty sure the FAFSA takes into account not just income but also things like home property, accounts, etc... (someone correct me if I'm wrong).

If you haven't, but still for some bizarre reason don't want to dip into your 500k bank account and instead take out an unsubsidized gov't or private loan, you can decide to do that.

As you say, any money made after the loan would not matter.

birch, finch, beech


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Quibble. (0.00 / 0)
Money cannot find "its way illegally" or legally.  Besides, accepting a donation without reporting its source is an illegal act on the candidate's part, as would be the acceptance of a bribe on a public official's part.  

Pretending that the purpose of the gift is determinative and that a public officials desire to be continued in office is not self-serving or self-dealing is one of those legal niceties which degrade our appreciation of the rule of law.  Anti-social behavior under cover of law is still anti-social.

But then, punitive conservatives are anti-social to the core.



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