WMUR Shea-Porter v. Guinta Debate

"[Social Security] won't exist in 2037" (4.00 / 1)

That's a complete, nose-enhancing, LIE.

The pessimists say it will only be able to pay 75% of the higher benefits scheduled. Nobody except frigging Liars like Guinta says it will not exist.

Unless he simply is promising: elect me and it's gone.

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by: elwood @ Mon Oct 25, 2010 at 18:44:04 PM CDT

I like how they say... (4.00 / 2)

I like how they say Social Security will inevitably collapse because we won't have enough workers to support the retirees... when we're NOT EVEN USING THE WORKFORCE WE HAVE NOW!

About 25% of the workforce is currently either unemployed or several underemployed.  Just putting that quarter of the workforce back to work would go a long way towards fixing the funding crisis.

BTW, something which gets overlooked in the analysis of the "aging crisis" is the fact that a lot of senior's care is provided by other seniors.  I was reminded of that last year when I visited the Senior Center in Salem for a Judd Gregg town hall: it was the busiest place in town, providing jobs (paid as well as unpaid) for a few dozen people, most of them of very mature years.

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by: TimothyHorrigan @ Mon Oct 25, 2010 at 20:46:38 PM CDT

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After numerous debates and prompts, (0.00 / 0)

Guinta finally says that SS should be kept for "certain Americans."

Too bad for you, Generation X, Millenials, and everyone after you.

birch, finch, beech

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by: Dean Barker @ Mon Oct 25, 2010 at 18:45:55 PM CDT

Well to be fair those generations (0.00 / 0)

Still get to pay in, b/c Guinta has said he will keep it going for those on it.

I felt bad for CSP -- if you are a voter and you can't see why that makes no sense, you maybe need to stay home.

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by: Mike Caulfield @ Mon Oct 25, 2010 at 19:18:48 PM CDT

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I hear the sound of showers starting up all across NH (4.00 / 1)

God help us.

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by: Mike Caulfield @ Mon Oct 25, 2010 at 18:58:57 PM CDT

NHDP comments: (0.00 / 0)

New Hampshire Democratic Party Chair's Statement on CD1 WMUR Debate

Concord - New Hampshire Democratic Party Chair Ray Buckley released the following statement after Congresswoman Carol Shea-Porter highlighted the clear differences between her record working for the rest of us, and Frank Guinta's questionable candidacy at the WMUR debate this evening.

"Once again Mr. Guinta failed to be honest with Granite State citizens about the source of over $350,000.00 in mysterious funds that he failed to disclose with the FEC, and has been funneling into his campaign.  Despite calls from both Democratic and Republican Party leaders Mr. Guinta still refuses to release bank statements revealing the source of this secret money.

"Until Mr. Guinta is honest with New Hampshire voters there is no way they can trust him.  You can't demand the public's trust, you have to earn it, something that he has failed to do time and time again.  In these tough times New Hampshire can't afford to send anyone to Congress with as many question marks surrounding their candidacy as Frank Guinta has.

"Nor can we afford to have a representative who has called for ending Social Security, ending federal funding for Autism research, ending the Food and Drug Administration, and ending the Departments of Education and Energy.  Mr. Guinta's rhetoric is not only out of touch, it's dangerous, and would do serious harm to our state and our country."

birch, finch, beech

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by: Dean Barker @ Mon Oct 25, 2010 at 19:10:26 PM CDT

guinta on the cost / job created by the stimulus....his pat answer makes me crazy (4.00 / 1)

We have heard the number 8000 plus jobs for 1 billion dollars spent and then the Republicans do the simple division which makes the job creation numbers look ridiculous, but when looking at infrastructure, the cost of personnel pales compared to the cost of materials...we are not talking paper and paper clips we are talking rebar, cement,stone, all kinds of materials that the Chinese are sucking up and making more expensive by the hour. Why does Carol fail to remind folks of that? We need the infrastructure for commerce - we all know that jobs alone are not the point; most of these projects have been delayed for years with real economic consequences to all businesses.
1.2.1.1 Buildings 02.00.00 Building Site Work
03.00.00 Building Concrete
04.00.00 Masonry
05.00.00 Metals
06.00.00 Wood & Plastics
07.00.00 Thermal & Moisture Protection
08.00.00 Openings
09.00.00 Finishes
10.00.00 Specialties
11.00.00 Permanent Equipment
12.00.00 Furnishings
13.00.00 Special Construction
14.00.00 Conveying Systems
1.2.2.2 Earthwork 31.21. 00 Dewatering
31.22. 00 Grading Earth
31.23.00 Earth Excavation
31.24.00 Embankment Construction
31.25.00 Erosion Control
31.26.00 Sub-grade Preparation
31.27.00 Structural Excavation
31.28.00 Structural Backfill
31.33.00 Rock Stabilization
31.38.00 Soil Stabilization
31.39.00 Rock Excavation

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by: political chowder @ Mon Oct 25, 2010 at 19:28:35 PM CDT

Maybe someone should (0.00 / 0)

suggest that his answer makes it sound like he thing the stimulus should have been direct payment "welfare" rather than infrastructure improvements need to move our country forward.

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by: Mike Hoefer @ Mon Oct 25, 2010 at 22:21:53 PM CDT

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Hrm... (0.00 / 0)

I don't think either one was all that more particularly convincing with their answers...they both did well enough.

But boy, was he a condescending little jackass...

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by: ChrisMelcher @ Mon Oct 25, 2010 at 19:31:06 PM CDT

Guinta in Afghanistan (4.00 / 1)

It scares me that someone like Guinta will have a voice in our foreign policy.  His lame answer on what to do in Afghanistan showed he was clearly out of his league.  

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by: chrisv @ Mon Oct 25, 2010 at 20:10:51 PM CDT

Let's be fair. (4.00 / 1)

His own limitations don't matter.

His votes on Afghanistan, and any other issue for that matter, will be cast by his anonymous bankers.

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by: elwood @ Mon Oct 25, 2010 at 20:52:57 PM CDT

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GOTV (0.00 / 0)

Write postcards, make phone calls, and go door-to-door for Carol - keep up the hard work, and keep the pressure on Guinta.    

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by: chrisv @ Mon Oct 25, 2010 at 21:29:26 PM CDT

Guinta's baloney (4.00 / 1)

Having served with Frank during his single term in the NH House and witnessed his two terms on as an alderman and mayor, Frank's baloney tonight was out of control.

So I have a few things to say to my former colleague:

First, the whole issue of voting for speaker. Excuse me Frank but only one of you voted for the only speaker in modern times to be censured by the House ethics committee and forced to resign in disgrace. That would be you Frank! You voted for Gene Chandler for speaker of the NH House sir. Your vote for Chandler is a serious question to your judgement. On the other hand, my congresswoman voted for the speaker who raised the minimum wage, protected kids' healthcare, passed Wall St. reform and saved the American economy.

Second, the baloney about "reading legislation before you vote on it". Frank, while in the legislature nearly two thousand bills were filed, you and I both know you didn't read 90% of them. As an alderman how many times did you vote on contracts and other proposals of a hundred pages or more given to you moments before the vote on the BMA? Don't lie Frank, its all on dvds of the BMA meetings. I believe Carol when she says she reads the major legislation, you on the other hand...

So cut the baloney and mindless DC talking points and stop trying to avoid answering the question on where that half million in you account came from.

2012 starts today.

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by: Ray Buckley @ Mon Oct 25, 2010 at 21:29:50 PM CDT