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Courage

by: Dean Barker

Thu Feb 17, 2011 at 21:05:07 PM EST


( - promoted by William Tucker)

Yes, it was obvious to anyone that in Concord today there was a hundreds strong red sea of Granite Staters testifying against the three different bills that would tear down marriage as we know it in New Hampshire.

Less obvious from the photos, tweets, etc... was the impression that those who spoke made.

Dean Barker :: Courage
Over and over again in the testimony of those against repeal I heard courage.  There were many stories shared, about sacrifice, about pain, about discrimination.  Told of themselves, of their mothers, their children, their brothers, their friends. Stories about celebration and hope, too.  In them you felt the collective struggle of the often difficult movement from second class citizen status to true equality.

Also present in significant numbers was the moral courage of the religious left, a group virtually invisible in popular culture but powerfully present today.

The running theme of all the pro-marriage speakers was courage.  For some it was the immediate courage of never having spoken publicly before about such a thing.  For others, the experiential courage that showed through loud and clear in the retelling of a struggle.

The impression given off by those who would do away with our marriage law could not have been more different.

(I'm not talking about professional right-wing Culture Warriors like Kevin Smith and Maggie Gallagher; their testimony had all the depth of feeling of a used car salesman's pitch, and as a result their words were forgettable.)

To a person, those that were in favor of repeal were eminently sure of themselves.  Sure, now and then (and this was particularly true of the state reps who showed up to pre-empt citizen testimony) there would be window dressing in the form of some grossly inaccurate history,  or some erroneous reference to the founding fathers, or some dubious "research," or some bizarre appeal to personal victimhood, but by and large the feeling they gave off was Absolute Certainty in their belief that Granite Staters they will never know do not have the same rights that they do to get married.  And while not exclusively, it was almost always fueled by religious fundamentalism, often explicitly so in their remarks.

To me, the exemplar of this Absolute Certainty was none other than repeal bill sponsor Representative David Bates himself.

(Although he showed a lack of principle when he followed the house leadership's wishes and asked that his own bill be retained; at least Rep. Baldassaro had the guts to say it ought to be voted on now).

While the testimony of those in support of marriage often moved me to tears, Rep. Bates' opening remarks sent a chill down my spine, especially when he, after questioning from a member of the Judiciary Committee, calmly and confidently declared that the majority rules even in matters of the the rights of minorities. I fear any man or woman with the level of supreme surety and apparent absence of self-reflection I witnessed today in him.  History is littered with the wreckage of that kind of mindset.

The opposite of fear is courage.  More than anything, courage was what echoed through Representatives Hall today some seven hundred-fold, and that is what I will most remember.  In one way, this tremendous outpouring of support for marriage felt like the fruit of the original labor involved in getting the law passed in the first place.  Today I witnessed the ripple effect of the ever-expanding circle of freedom and equality.  While the weak, insecure Bill O'Brien statehouse may now hold marriage in the balance, I learned that in the long run they can never win.


(birched first)

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I learned that in the long run they can never win. (4.00 / 4)
That is what I am trying my best to keep in mind these crazy days. We are witnessing the desperate clinging to the past by a group that fears the future.

When my kids marry whom ever they love in 20 years or so they will wonder what all the fuss was about.  

Hope > Fear




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In the long run, I don't know..... (4.00 / 2)
but they can cause great damage in the short run. The uprising of the extreme right must be stopped here and now!  In this cycle.  Both nationally and here in NH. If we can't beat it back now, it will take hold and become the new normal. Conditions in this country (and others) are ripe for a reactionary, fear-driven, self-protective renaissance.

Corporate control of politicians/our government  guarantees that more people fall of the back of the bus and the mega-wealthy stay that way. Our standard of living is likely going to continue to deteriorate causing intense anger. Those with money and power will resort to whatever they have to in order to protect what they have.

Demonstrating at state capitols is just the beginning.

"No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it." Albert Einstein


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En masse (4.00 / 2)


"Politics ain't beanbag" - Finley Peter Dunne

Rep. Daniel Itse (0.00 / 0)
NH's Constitutional Scholar aka Rep. Daniel Itse, if I understood him correctly, has located a clause in the state constitutional regarding marriage.  I could not find anything in the document about marriage, but then I am not a constitutional authority like Mr. Itse.  Does anyone here know what he was talking about?

I made a good faith effort (4.00 / 2)
to follow what the our self-appointed Constitutional Scholar was saying, but it just got too convoluted after a while.

And then when the Committee chair told him his time was up, and he just basically barrelled on (mind you there were dozens of non-Reps waiting patiently to speak), I decided that I had overextended my respect in paying attention.

I do know that he looked eminently Sure of His Rightness on the matter, whatever it was.

birch paper


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Itse in a nutshell: (4.00 / 1)
I do know that he looked eminently Sure of His Rightness on the matter, whatever it was.

Regardless of whether he's just done an utter about-face after being caught red-handed selling baloney as prime rib, he'll always present a front that is grounded in a rigorous understanding of and devotion to core American constitutional principles and a profound, deep and intimate knowledge of historical facts.

Far more often than not, it is utter horseshit.

This is not a secret among his colleagues.


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They are convinced (4.00 / 3)
that they rule, and are hanging on with all their strength to the past, which is slipping away.  I suspect underneath the conviction is a pit of fear, because they know they are losing.  

Back in the day, I took Russian and learned that when Nikita Khrushchev declared that "we will bury you" he did not mean the Soviet Union planned to kill us all. That's an old Russian expression that means that they will outlive us, their way of life will outlive ours.  The translation matters.

In our case, I believe that love and compassion will outlive hate and fear.  Our children and grandchildren are already much more accepting of diversity than our generations have been.  But we must still continue our work to protect those who are not white wealthy heterosexual men.  As a woman, I know all about being treated differently!  I stand in solidarity with my GLBT friends and neighbors, because my rights are under attack as well, but mostly for the reason that it is the right thing to do.


The diversity of the majority voice (4.00 / 4)
What Dean said... plus, although I was not able to stay for the entire hearing, I gotta say that there was a striking similarity among the people who spoke in favor of repealing equality in New Hampshire (paid lobbyists, a few libertarians, and people who use the bible as a political platform - all disproportionately represented by older white men), compared to the colorful crowd who came to take a stand against institutionalizing discrimination against same sex-couples.

Kudos to the organizers at NH Freedom to Marry and allies, who did an amazing job of getting the word out and getting people to the hearing.


With Utmost Respect (4.00 / 1)
Judy, the libertarians I have been reading comments from (and they are NOT my favorite people!) are pretty consistently supportive of marriage equality.  There is some spill-over, of course with winger Repubs who carry the evangelic social agenda.

Sure, I voted for less government and less government spending...just NOT the parts that I benefit from!

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My bad... to clarify (4.00 / 2)
the libertarian reps who testified were there to promote the repeal of marriage, period, and replace it with civil unions, but were not against legal unions for same-sex couples. But they were also white and male - that's not a bad thing but I did not hear any women testifying in favor of abolishing marriage for everyone.

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I did not want to dilute yesterday (0.00 / 0)
with a focus on hb569, but one thing I wish I had heard but didn't was that there are thousands of non-churchgoing married Granite Staters like I whose marriages would be abolished.

This libertarian solution to the "problem" of allowing same-sex couples to have the same status as the rest of us would enrage an entire category of New Hampshire families.

birch paper


[ Parent ]
I think Tim Horrigan touched on it. (4.00 / 2)
when he said we have a good word for marriage:  Marriage.  Gets right to the heart of the matter.

Thanks to susanthe for her collection of notable quotes.

I think the concept behind HB 569 is good.  It is axiomatic to me that we should separate the concepts of civil marriage and religious marriage.  But I share the visceral reaction to the word change.  

My husband and I were married long before we ever went to the Town Clerk's Office in Brattleboro, VT, if by marriage one means a deep and unquestioned commitment to each other.  We never did have to speak about it--it was just there.  And then one day we decided to get a license and have our favorite judge come over to the house and sign it.  No other witnesses, except for the dog, and no spoken promises, either.  We didn't need them.  But as everyone at the hearing yesterday, gay or straight, for or against, all said, no matter how you choose to do it, marriage makes a difference.  And that is so true.  It certainly made a difference  for us.  I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would want to deny any other couple their right to make that same choice.

As for the people who tell me marriage is only about the procreation of children, I just want to slap them silly.  If I feel actual rage at being told that my marriage is not really a real marriage, I cannot even begin to imagine how it feels to be gay and to be told that your whole relationship is not worth recognising.

Ray Buckley also noted somewhere (sorry, Ray, too tired to find and link) that he remembered discussions on the subject of separating out civil and religious marriage going back to the early 1980s.  But the devil is, indeed, when you get into the details.


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Then you missed it (0.00 / 1)
At least one Republican female Rep spoke in favor of HB569 (and against the other 2), I believe.
One Democrat female Rep caught me in the hallway later and said she could support HB569, and felt it would stop the need for events like that day, and the fear and frustration they cause, which was one of my points in my own testimony: we need to end the conflict, and that means finding a solution both sides can find acceptable.  

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Democrat female rep? (0.00 / 0)
Seth, that is Foxspeak. We do not call people on your side "Republic".

Btw, who is this " Democrat female Rep" you speak of?


[ Parent ]
Seth is showing his true colors... (4.00 / 1)


"If you are going to be in politics, you have to be a soldier in the battlefield."

                    Hubert H. Humphrey



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As in the other thread on this... (0.00 / 0)
I was unaware this was considered so insulting, and apologize.

"One Female Democrat who is a Rep" would have been fine, right?
or "One Female Democratic Rep"?

I know of a few, but I was speaking of the one who approached me in the hallway.  I won't name her without her permission, that would be rude, and since it's coming to the floor now (the other bills will be retain), and I expect a roll call, we'll see if she's willing to vote this soon.  She was certain open to spending a year getting folks thinking about the solution more...


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You don't get it. (4.00 / 3)
There are thousands of married couples in Nh who do not go to church who will never find acceptable the taking away of their marriage.

birch paper

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the paper title will change (0.00 / 0)
But their marriage will remain intact, because that's not about the title on the piece of paper, and we all know it.

You and Kathy have seized on 'abolishment of marriage' as your meme, so be it.  It's untrue, and anyone who bothers to find out the facts, loses respect for you, but you are trusting on ignorance of the people.  That's a very sad place to stand on.


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the paper title will change (0.00 / 0)
But their marriage will remain intact, because that's not about the title on the piece of paper, and we all know it.

You and Kathy have seized on 'abolishment of marriage' as your meme, so be it.  It's untrue, and anyone who bothers to find out the facts, loses respect for you, but you are trusting on ignorance of the people.  That's a very sad place to stand on.


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Stop spinning. (4.00 / 3)
The "title" is "marriage."

You would take away the marriages of thousands of non church-going Granite Staters.

From a partisan perspective, I would welcome the passage of this law, because it would create an avalanche of voters in 2012 to vote our Republicans who passed it.

But from a family perspective, it stinks.  Stop messing with my marriage, please.  

birch paper


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"We need to end the conflict" (4.00 / 4)
There IS no conflict in New Hampshire. Marriage equality is widely accepted, more so than (for example) the death penalty. (Oppose repeal of marriage equality: 62%. Favor death penalty: 57%.)

Your side is CREATING the conflict, as it kowtows to the out-of-state haters who gave you all that money in the election.


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100 - 62 = 38% (0.00 / 0)
Or about 2 out of 5 people.
That's not trivial, elwood.

I see a conflict, and so do many others.  But you want to ignore it, since you now like the status quo.


[ Parent ]
or perhaps (4.00 / 1)
you wish to  ignore the majority, because you're a participant in  the very narrow social agenda of your party.

I did not hear you testify in opposition to 437 or 443. Your bill, a bill that has absolutely no chance of being passed, is a shield for you to hide behind, while the bigots of your party continue to push to take rights away from a minority group.  


[ Parent ]
Excuse me, I certainly did... (0.00 / 0)
I said I was part of the new Republicans who would NOT vote for repeal... (and folks silently applauded, so they heard me), and then said 'but I'm one of the sponsors for HB569' and spoke on that bill, and why it would solve the problem of having that sort of event every 2 years.

If you didn't hear it, perhaps you need need to review the videotape, I'm sure someone taped it.

And it looks like HB569 will have a floor fight, so we'll see if it has a chance or not.  Either way, the discussion will continue.


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I repeat (4.00 / 1)
I did not hear you testify in opposition to 437 or 443. All of your phonus balonus strawman crap isn't going to conceal that simple truth. Trying to turn this into being about me won't make that go away.

You did not testify in opposition.  


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religious left (0.00 / 0)
Whether the religious left is "virtually invisible in popular culture" is debatable.  More accurately, the left has abandonned religion and is indeed guilty of the right's claim they are condescending to anything Christian.  The Christendom perpetuated by the American Empire surely deserves all the criticism leveled at it by liberals.  But real Christianity, what Jesus and the Prophets actually say, is right in line with the left side of the political spectrum.  Liberals do a disservice to the value of faith in daily life when they ignore this.  I sport a bumper sticker that says "Blessed to be part of the Christian Left".  We're not invisible.  You just haven't been looking.  

Allow me to clarify. (0.00 / 0)
Sometimes when I write about the same phenomenon over and over and over, I can abbreviate in ways that are unclear at face value.  Shame on me!

By Popular Culture I am not talking about the world as it really is.  I'm talking about narratives built by the media which (sadly) have more impact on policy and agenda than reality.

For example, no matter how many polls come out showing that Americans don't want their Social Security messed with, the DC Villagers and their corporate media allies have decided for us that the Deficit is Issue #1 and that somehow going after Social Security is both necessary and desired.

Of course there is a vital religious left (especially in Northern New England).  But it almost never gets any real attention by the media overlords who determine what is and isn't relevant.

(btw, loved your testimony - thank you!)

birch paper


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sigh... (4.00 / 1)
It kills me to contemplate the reality of what you're saying.  We made it into the consciousness of the media last Thursday though.  A chink in the armour? Don't forget about such things as internal realities too.  This (media driven paradigm) is not my beautiful New Hampshire/America!!

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100% Yes. (4.00 / 1)
We made it into the consciousness of the media last Thursday though.

That is exactly why I singled it out in the post - the sheer size of numbers of clergy on the side of marriage equality was so great that is forced a number of news reports on it to include some of their testimony in the remarks.

I don't know (and I don't need to know) how such a strong showing of religious leaders across so many denominations and religions was organized, but its effect was real and tangible and could not be ignored.  A true success story.

birch paper


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