State House Update

Certainly a laserlike-focus on the economy! (4.00 / 6)

Big business opportunities in formerly criminal behavior and boom times for gun shops!

Not so much fun if you are a law enforcement officer.

The worst part is considering how much of this FreeStateTeabaglican mess will need to be sorted out after 2012, if it isn't all tied up in litigation.

Republicans believe government is bad - then they get into office and prove it every day...until 2012.

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by: GreyMike @ Tue Mar 15, 2011 at 14:22:37 PM CDT

HB 370 (0.00 / 0)

HB 370 - Changes to Pupil Safety & Violence Prevention Act. Passed 248 - 96

"Politics ain't beanbag" - Finley Peter Dunne

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by: William Tucker @ Tue Mar 15, 2011 at 14:24:54 PM CDT

This is the anti-bullying law (0.00 / 0)

That Dean commented on yesterday

Does anyone know what the governor will do if it passes the Senate?

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by: Putney Swope @ Tue Mar 15, 2011 at 15:05:47 PM CDT

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HB 422 (4.00 / 1)

HB 422 - Prohibiting any vaccinations in public schools. Killed 294 - 49.

"Politics ain't beanbag" - Finley Peter Dunne

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by: William Tucker @ Tue Mar 15, 2011 at 14:30:14 PM CDT

Live free or die (4.00 / 2)

Aaron / Deering. Dean04. Hillary08.

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by: nhveedub @ Tue Mar 15, 2011 at 14:34:20 PM CDT

Re: HB 210, 330, 378 (4.00 / 4)

I know I'm going to feel so much safer going to the supermarket, driving in traffic, or taking a walk in the neighborhood.

JillSH

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by: JillSH @ Tue Mar 15, 2011 at 14:43:30 PM CDT

Welcome to Dodge (4.00 / 5)

and Marshall Dillon's position has been cut.

Don't worry, we'll soon be able to subscribe to the Free State Vigilantes for protection for a small sum.  

Republicans believe government is bad - then they get into office and prove it every day...until 2012.

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by: GreyMike @ Tue Mar 15, 2011 at 14:48:33 PM CDT

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Yeah, Right. (4.00 / 5)

I've seen these jerk-off strolling around with their revolvers, and I'm just waiting for the first time one of them tries to draw and has the gun taken away and shoved up their nether regions.  Why doesn't a Dem propose legalizing public cigar smoking, instead, as a less lethal form of phallic compensation.

Sure, I voted for less government and less government spending...just NOT the parts that I benefit from!

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by: Ref @ Tue Mar 15, 2011 at 17:20:32 PM CDT

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HB 429 (0.00 / 0)

HB429 - Lowering dropout age to 16. Passed 210 - 134.

"Politics ain't beanbag" - Finley Peter Dunne

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by: William Tucker @ Tue Mar 15, 2011 at 15:01:55 PM CDT

Champions (4.00 / 4)

for the stoopid. What we need is more unemployed and uneducated 16-year-olds on the street who will grow into low-information citizens (or criminals) and vote (or not) for more stoopid.

One surefire way to make certain college students can't vote - make sure they don't go to college in the first place! Perfection.

Republicans believe government is bad - then they get into office and prove it every day...until 2012.

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by: GreyMike @ Tue Mar 15, 2011 at 15:39:28 PM CDT

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This goes hand in hand (4.00 / 3)

with eliminating the State's minimum wage law. Those rich folks moving here for our regressive tax structure and pro-business environment need dumb kids to work for cheap wages...

Aaron / Deering. Dean04. Hillary08.

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by: nhveedub @ Tue Mar 15, 2011 at 15:51:26 PM CDT

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High School Dropouts (4.00 / 7)

So a high school dropout who stays in his/her home town, receiving public assistance because they don't have the education to qualify for a job, can vote but a college student can't?

This is so stupid!

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by: ProfessorMike @ Tue Mar 15, 2011 at 15:58:06 PM CDT

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I don't think (0.00 / 0)

they are planning on having any public assistance.

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by: Lucy Edwards @ Tue Mar 15, 2011 at 17:35:03 PM CDT

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HB 429 aka (4.00 / 2)

GOP voter creation bill.  

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by: susanthe @ Tue Mar 15, 2011 at 16:42:32 PM CDT

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Well, since O'Brien's constitutional amendment eliminates (4.00 / 2)

the obligation of the state and probably the local community -- to fund schools at all, tweaking the dropout age is small potatoes.

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by: elwood @ Tue Mar 15, 2011 at 17:23:07 PM CDT

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HB 176 (4.00 / 4)

HB 176 - College students voting bill. Defeated 72 - 267.

"Politics ain't beanbag" - Finley Peter Dunne

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by: William Tucker @ Tue Mar 15, 2011 at 16:20:39 PM CDT

College student voting (4.00 / 3)

Senate Bill 129 which also is an attack on college student voting will be voted in the Senate tomorrow. Please urge your Senator - or all of the Senators - to vote against taking away voting rights for any citizens.

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by: calvin @ Tue Mar 15, 2011 at 17:54:32 PM CDT

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SB 129 is another Voter ID bill that does nothing except erect barriers to make it difficult for citizens to vote. (4.00 / 2)

"But, in the unlikely story that is America, there has never been anything false about hope." Si se puede. Yes we can.  

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by: Paul Twomey @ Tue Mar 15, 2011 at 18:22:37 PM CDT

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How do any of these bills (4.00 / 2)

save the state money or create new jobs, except perhaps for lawyers who will be hired to contest them?  Where's your laser beam, O'Brien?  Where are the jobs?  

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by: mevansnh @ Tue Mar 15, 2011 at 17:28:05 PM CDT

Huffington Post Headlines (4.00 / 2)

"Obama Looking For Ways Around Congress On Gun Policy"

And NH passes a bill to turn the state into the wild, wild west.  Unbelievable.  Time to think about leaving this place.  It's not safe.

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by: mevansnh @ Tue Mar 15, 2011 at 17:33:09 PM CDT

HB 542 ends compulsory school attendance (4.00 / 2)

 
Folks, don't be so concerned that they voted to lower the school drop out age to 16, by passing HB 542 the House voted to end the requirement that parents sent their chidren to school whether it be public, private or parochial.

This bill lowers the drop out age to 5 years old.

But if you are a parent who does send your children to school, you can take them out of any classes you don't want them to attend. The bill gives no direction as to what the school does with these children once they leave the particular class.

The bill also prevents any school district from objecting to any education plan parents deem is best for their children such as...not going to school.

The vote for this bill was 197-148 for passage.

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by: foodnetwork @ Tue Mar 15, 2011 at 17:51:01 PM CDT

It was never the children who didn't want to go to school. (4.00 / 2)

It was always the parents who wanted the children to work and support them as soon as possible.

Children are the property of their parents to dispose of as they will.  Children are the last category of persons who are owned.  Private property rights are sacrosanct.  Human rights, not so much.  That's why the U.S. has refused to ratify the Convention on the Rights of the Child.

Humans legally owning other humans has a long tradition in our jurisprudence. 'Tis a conservative ideal.  We need to remember that aliens who were bought and sold weren't the only people who were owned.  Parents owning their children is a basic family value.

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by: hannah @ Tue Mar 15, 2011 at 18:54:56 PM CDT

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There certainly have been and are children (0.00 / 0)

who don't want to go to school.

Partly because we don't address bullying. (Ending schooling isn't a very good solution.)

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by: elwood @ Tue Mar 15, 2011 at 19:08:36 PM CDT

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Bullying is not schooling. Most children are able to tell the (0.00 / 0)

difference and the smart ones are reluctant to trade personal safety for worthless instruction.  I might even go so far as to argue that bullying thrives in environments where little or no learning is going on.  If students are bullied, it means the administrators aren't doing their job.  And teachers who bully are covering up that they don't know how to teach. Their usual excuse is that the students don't learn because they lack discipline. When teachers spend twenty minutes out of every fifty trying to get students to sit still and listen, it's clear that extracting obedience heads up the agenda. Pacification starts early.

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by: hannah @ Wed Mar 16, 2011 at 04:26:25 AM CDT

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Women as Property? (4.00 / 1)

I'm sure the way they are going the legislature won't stop with children their parent's property.  Next they will move on to women as their husband's property.

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by: ProfessorMike @ Tue Mar 15, 2011 at 20:26:00 PM CDT

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not just husband's, PMike (4.00 / 3)

they want women's reproductive organs to become the property of the state.  

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by: susanthe @ Tue Mar 15, 2011 at 21:24:44 PM CDT

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True. For troops to be fungible they have to be produced at a (0.00 / 0)

sufficient rate that the thinning of the youthful population won't be noticed.  When women choose to reproduce, they resent the fruit of their womb being wantonly disposed of or sacrificed on the altar of national security.

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by: hannah @ Wed Mar 16, 2011 at 04:15:13 AM CDT

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NH House has a Gun Fetish (4.00 / 2)

HB 210 - Use of deadly force anywhere without retreating.
HB 330 - No license required for a weapon, open or concealed.
HB 378 - Allows a person to show a firearm to a trespasser without criminal offense

Focuses like a spotting scope on guns.

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by: Mike Hoefer @ Tue Mar 15, 2011 at 18:44:34 PM CDT

HB 378 (4.00 / 2)

makes pointing a gun at someone use of non-lethal force and HB 210 allows use of lethal force for threats. Does that mean you can shoot somebody who looks threatening but not someone who points a gun at you?  

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by: robert @ Tue Mar 15, 2011 at 20:15:02 PM CDT

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I was gonna shoot him legally, but... (0.00 / 0)

...then he pulled a gun, and I had to relent.

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by: Tim C. @ Wed Mar 16, 2011 at 10:26:30 AM CDT

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If there are no license requirements (0.00 / 0)

that means there are no background checks either?  How will the fly with federal laws?

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by: mevansnh @ Wed Mar 16, 2011 at 12:25:51 PM CDT

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Same as Vts (0.00 / 0)

Same as it does with Vermonts. The state with the second lowest crime rate in the country.
Bottom line is , normal people dont kill each other for a 1/2 of days pay.
The Mt Vernon murderers did need guns, just the desire to kill.

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by: unemployed roofer @ Thu Mar 17, 2011 at 11:58:01 AM CDT

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And Dems are joining in (0.00 / 0)

At least on HB 210 and HB 378 (only 54 Dems voted against). What's going on?

whp

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by: whp @ Wed Mar 16, 2011 at 17:52:10 PM CDT

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Correction on CACR9 (4.00 / 1)

Constitutional Amendments require 60% of the membership, not 3/4.  

Also, the 60% is of the entire membership, not the votes cast, so a constitutional amendment only passes the House if there are at least 240 votes in favor.  Passing the Senate requires 16 votes in favor.

It doesn't matter how many votes are cast against.  If a Rep doesn't show up, it's essentially counted the same as voting "no".

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by: brianrater @ Wed Mar 16, 2011 at 09:18:22 AM CDT

Thanks n/t (0.00 / 0)

"Politics ain't beanbag" - Finley Peter Dunne

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by: William Tucker @ Wed Mar 16, 2011 at 10:40:04 AM CDT

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