The "Doctors Must Lie to Their Patients" Bill

good questions Kathy (4.00 / 4)

Why is the state taking steps to tell a doctor what medical information he must provide to a patient? Also, the bill requires all this information to be put up on a state web site. So, the State of NH will be publishing and distributing false information.  

The answer is painful, yet simple. The far right Christian Taliban legislature (and I include the Free Staters in that category, because they vote right along with this stuff) believes in government small enough to drown in a bathtub, then fit into a uterus.

I wish I could say that I thought the Freebaglicans didn't trust women to make their own decisions, but that's not it. They hate and fear  women and want to control them. The way to keep women out of the workplace and the political arena is to keep them from controlling their reproductive systems.

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by: susanthe @ Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 15:38:06 PM UTC

Couldn't have said it better (0.00 / 0)

This is all about control.  The male tea baggers want nothing more than to control women and their bodies.  

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by: Timmy J @ Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 21:11:17 PM UTC

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How's the traffic in Massachusetts? (0.00 / 0)

This sort of stuff just forces people to go elsewhere for the services they need. When I was a kid in Massachusetts, the ladies when to New York. So, the "free staters" want to challenge a women's freedom to choose, and drive her out of the "free state" to exercise that freedom.

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by: DianeR @ Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 15:55:43 PM UTC

That makes a lot of sense, now doesn't it. (4.00 / 1)

Too bad it isn't these people who are fighting in Afghanistan.  They'd fit right in with the Taliban.

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by: mevansnh @ Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 16:34:20 PM UTC

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Great point! (0.00 / 0)

I was working with a gynecologist last year and this doctor's advice to his patient was to move to Massachusetts to get the care she needed.  I was so embarrassed to live in a state where that's the solution to a woman's medical problem because of this far right legislature!

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by: Timmy J @ Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 21:13:52 PM UTC

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And the depressing HB 1659 Update (0.00 / 0)

...is that the bill was so awful that even with the draconian criminal penalties taken out, the Ought to Pass with Amendment motion actually failed, by a vote of 164-181.  The Inexpedient to Legislate motion that followed immediately also failed, 170-179, because supporters of the bill had finally woken up to the handwriting on the wall, and stated that they were in the process of preparing an alternative floor amendment.  As is becoming tiresomely predictable, the bill was tabled.  (Whatever happened to that fine old House tradition of arriving in the morning fully prepared to proceed with whatever alternatives might be necessary?)

The amendment was eventually handed out, but many members never got copies.  This is unusual.  Typically, the staff is meticulous about making sure one copy goes to every person in the House and into every seat pocket of vacant seat.  This late floor amendment removed some of the most offensive counseling and data gathering provisions, but left in the 24 hour waiting period, and the language was confusing in its application, particularly as it may or may not affect the status of nurse practitioners.  And late in the day, with numbers dwindling, off the bill came from the table again.  (Do-overs are quite the thing in the House these days.)

Interestingly, at this point, the Chair of Judiciary moved to special order the bill til tomorrow morning, stating that many people still had not been provided with a copy of the amendment.  that did not fly, and the revised version ultimately passed by a vote of 185-138.

Yup, it's all about the process.

Here is a fact that should help you to fight a little longer.
Things that don't actually kill you outright make you stronger.

Piet Hein, Grooks

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by: Lucy Weber @ Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 01:24:05 AM UTC

the parliamentary maneuvers started up before the staff got to the back rows. (0.00 / 0)

I thin plenty of copies were printed, but the parliamentary maneuvers started up before the staff got to the back rows.  The upshot of all the confusion was that the last few dozen copies never made it all the way to back.


sitting state rep: running for re-election in 2012.

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by: TimothyHorrigan @ Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 01:36:38 AM UTC

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is the provision (0.00 / 0)

that forces doctors to lie to women still in the bill?  

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by: susanthe @ Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 01:39:49 AM UTC

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Somewhat less so... (4.00 / 1)

Text of amendment here.

Here is a fact that should help you to fight a little longer.
Things that don't actually kill you outright make you stronger.

Piet Hein, Grooks

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by: Lucy Weber @ Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 01:47:17 AM UTC

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There was also another amendment that I forgot to mention (4.00 / 1)

offered during Round One of today's festivities.  Titled the MEN'S RIGHT TO KNOW ACT REGARDING ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION TREATMENTS, the text can be found here.

It should come as no surprise to all of you that the Speaker immediately ruled it a non-germane amendment.

Here is a fact that should help you to fight a little longer.
Things that don't actually kill you outright make you stronger.

Piet Hein, Grooks

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by: Lucy Weber @ Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 01:54:38 AM UTC

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the forgotten amendment... (4.00 / 2)

Ah but it was wonderful while it lasted....

"It is true that the law can't change the heart, but it can restrain the heartless."  Martin Luther King

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by: cyndychase @ Fri Mar 30, 2012 at 02:51:41 AM UTC

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The specific lies (0.00 / 0)

in the original bill were taken out, but it still mandates doctors give all sorts of warnings, make the women look at ultrasound pictures of the fetus, etc. This is regardless of whether the pregnancy is due to incest or rape.

Also, the bill refers to the fetus as "unborn child" changing the language of existing law, as far as I know.

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by: Jennifer Daler @ Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 01:49:59 AM UTC

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