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Shea-Porter & Shaheen: Two Views on Afghanistan

by: Dean Barker

Tue May 26, 2009 at 05:40:28 AM EDT


Two fact finding trips, two very different views on the state of Afghanistan, also known as That Country Bush Forgot About When He Decided to Invade That Other Country Unrelated to 9-11.  I don't say that to be snarky - it feels as if the general American consciousness in 2009 reflects that view, along with a sense of responsibility that we owe it to the struggling nation to, very belatedly, return to the path that once had it as our chief focus.

But is that plan the right one now?

Carol Shea-Porter in Afghanistan:

Afghanistan simply needs more help than the United States alone can provide and the country is engulfed in chaos with no obvious end, Congresswoman Carol Shea-Porter said after a recent trip to the war-torn nation.

"It's been seven years now, and really to fix Afghanistan would require an effort that I don't see happening," Shea-Porter said by phone from Washington.

The United States has by far the most troops and money invested there, Shea-Porter said, and fixing Afghanistan would require huge amounts of money and manpower from Europe as well, a political prospect that seems unlikely at best.

Jeanne Shaheen in Afghanistan:
The senators said they were "cautiously optimistic" that the new U.S. focus on the country will succeed more than similar efforts in Iraq, but noted that it will take concentration and focus on the country's civilian side, such as bolstering its government and police force.

Where the U.S. has been bogged down and "distracted" in Iraq, Afghanistan has languished, and the senators said the new focus there should pay bigger dividends since the country is the real "central front" in defeating terrorism.

"This is a second chance for us to get the situation in Afghanistan right," said Shaheen. "Our goal is to turn this country back over to the Afghans.. It's going to have some effect if we stick with it."

Leaving aside how the GOPers will use the first quote to play the Surrender Monkey rhetoric card, and how the Out-of-Afghanistan-Now crowd will be depressed by the second, what is the best path for our role in Afghanistan, and for that matter, Pakistan?
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We Can't "Win" Afghanistan... (0.00 / 0)
...we have to earn it.  We have to earn a peace that doesn't include military action.  A dozen military campaigns by other nations have shown that.  The fact that violence is increasing at this point that we're "surging" troops to Afghanistan should give us all concern.

The added danger of continued American military engagement is that every time a bomb is dropped or bullets are fired, we make another enemy.  Even if we kill a Taliban, we're killing someone's Mom or Dad, brother or sister or friend, and we've created another lifelong enemy.

Worse yet is when we try to kill Taliban in Pakistan, but we kill others.  Can you imagine our outrage if another country was "helping" the Canadian government against "insurgents" there who from time to time were "hiding" in Berlin, then that country sent their bombs to try to kill the Canadian insurgents in Berlin, but instead "by accident" killed New Hampshire residents?  How would THAT motivate us?  

We don't make friends that way.  We make bitter enemies.

I don't have a solution to winning in Afghanistan.  But it seems to me that the way we have made friends throughout the world is to EARN them.  When we don't kill them and when we avoid taking sides in their civil wars, we eventually find ways to make friendships.  It's when we engage in taking a side by sending our military into their borders -- that's when we get into trouble.  

I think Carol Shea-Porter gets it right, although Jeanne Shaheen isn't wrong.  I think the job of the Obama Administration is to find a way out without more body bags being returned to our shores for next Memorial Day.  He doesn't want this to become his war.  It's dangerously close to become so, as is the 1,000 mark of those body bags.  And November, 2010 is just 18 months away.  

I grew up during the Vietnam Era.  This sounds very familiar.  Yes, there are differences.  But wow, there are so many similarities.  Not one more brave American soldier should have to die in Afghanistan for this ill-defined cause.  


Definition Needed (0.00 / 0)
There's no military victory available in Afghanistan; security forces are, however, a prerequisite to getting anything else done. We need to figure out what constitutes 'stable' in the context of Afghanistan - it hasn't exactly been a strong centralized nation for a long time. Getting a national government with popular legitimacy is a civil issue, not a military one, in this case.

Random thought: How about starting up an Iraqi Foreign Legion, offer attractive military positions to Iraqis, and send them over to Afghanistan? As I understand it, one of the more serious problems they have right now with Iraqi domestic military units is a tendency to run away because they know they can just melt back into the civilian population. Get 'em over in Afghanistan and used to military discipline in a foreign environment before sending them back home. It gets us more troops in Afghanistan and gets better-trained ones in Iraq.

IT for John Lynch '04 and NHDP '08 - I'm liking my track record so far!


Realism in Afghanistan (0.00 / 0)
I had the opportunity recently to interview Ann Jones, who wrote Kabul In Winter and spent years in Afghanistan. The piece is very informative. To listen, go to my website burtcohen.com and open Podcasts. You'll see it there.

I can't see Obama getting LBJed.

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