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George W. Bush Not Interested in the Anti-Marriage Haters

by: Dean Barker

Mon Sep 21, 2009 at 20:04:08 PM EDT

Oh dear. But really, we all knew Shrub's religious right pander was basically a horse and pony show for votes:

For a commencement address at Furman University in spring 2008, Ed Gillespie wanted to insert a few lines condemning gay marriage. Bush called the speech too "condemnatory" and said, "I'm not going to tell some gay kid in the audience that he can't get married."

No worries though. Civil Rights Leader Kevin Smith will tell that kid he can't by telling him it's the same as marrying his sister:

The other side wants to say this is about discrimination, but there's already discrimination built into marriage. You can't marry your cousin, you can't marry your cousin's sister, you can have polygamy, and on and on. The whole issue runs hollow if you scratch below the surface."

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My cousin's sister? (4.00 / 4)

She isn't my cousin?

I need a remedial course in the Traditional Family from Reverend Smith.

by: elwood @ Mon Sep 21, 2009 at 19:29:34 PM CDT

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Marriage is for procreation (4.00 / 7)

...according to Kevin Smith and his fellow travelers.

The Union Leader had a front page article today about two nursing home patients who just got married. http://www.unionleader.com/art...

They obviously can't procreate - if Smith got his way they shouldn't be married either.

by: Putney Swope @ Mon Sep 21, 2009 at 21:41:36 PM CDT

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Why would "defenders" of marriage make the procreation argument? (4.00 / 3)

Is love no more profound than animal mating?

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by: Douglas E. Lindner @ Tue Sep 22, 2009 at 10:44:27 AM CDT

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Doug, this is only for pros n/t (0.00 / 0)

It is labour indeed that puts the difference on everything. ~John Locke, An Essay Concerning Human Understanding, 1690

by: JonnyBBad @ Tue Sep 22, 2009 at 15:56:44 PM CDT

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Ah, the good old days (4.00 / 4)

Way back in 2000, a GOP candidate could succeed by just pandering to the social conservative extremists. They were satisfied just to hear someone mouth their angst. Not anymore- they're a little more cynical after Bush.

Now they insist that their leaders be as clearly and demonstrably unhinged as they are. That's why Huckleberry and Palin are their favorites, and why Beck and Rush are so popular. Romney tries to pretend he is crazy, but they see through him.

by: Michael Marsh @ Tue Sep 22, 2009 at 05:32:24 AM CDT

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Romney IS crazy (0.00 / 0)

...but in a different, parallel vein.

That the fundie values voters don't much care for him proves that the LDS attempt to join the crowd by hating the gays EVEN HARDER hasn't yet worked.

by: ElsieElsie @ Tue Sep 22, 2009 at 12:01:54 PM CDT

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I don't think Romney's crazy at all.. (0.00 / 0)

... the guy was CEO of Bain Capital, and was pretty successful in that job. That is pretty good evidenmce he understands how things work in the real world.

Romney just has a raging case of wannabepresidentitis and will do or say anything if he thinks it will get him an inch closer to his goal. And his chosen political party is so screwed up that to get its nomination the stuff he has to say is ridiculous and makes him seem crazy.

by: Michael Marsh @ Tue Sep 22, 2009 at 12:59:14 PM CDT

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Smith apparently (4.00 / 1)

didn't get the memo from the "Values Voters' Summit:

According to the Washington Times (h/t to BarbinMD):

Opposition to same-sex marriage was third at 7 percent.

It's losing steam because their big argument about how it hurts the institution of marriage has been proven wrong. Massachusetts not only has the lowest divorce rate in the country, but the rate went down 2% since marriage equality was put in place.

Opposition to a woman's right to choose was indisputably #1. When will those people ever learn that we will not be going back to coat hangers?

by: Jennifer Daler @ Tue Sep 22, 2009 at 06:57:31 AM CDT

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It's coming. (Cue the 'shark approaching' music from Jaws) (4.00 / 3)

Gay marriage is coming to our state in a matter of months.

$50 says the overwhelming majority of New Hampshirites either won't notice, won't care, won't be affected by it, or will be supportive.

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by: Douglas E. Lindner @ Tue Sep 22, 2009 at 08:04:20 AM CDT

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Please forward the list of those who take you up on the bet. (4.00 / 2)

I have some real estate deals for them.

"But, in the unlikely story that is America, there has never been anything false about hope." Si se puede. Yes we can.

by: Paul Twomey @ Tue Sep 22, 2009 at 10:32:11 AM CDT

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I hear bridges in New York are at an all time low and people should act now! (4.00 / 1)

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by: Douglas E. Lindner @ Tue Sep 22, 2009 at 10:40:13 AM CDT

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Same-Gender Marriage Arrives... (4.00 / 2)

...in New Hampshire on January 1, 2010, at 12:01 AM -- 100 days from right now! That's 2,400 for those who are counting. Well, actually a bit over 2,410 hours from right this moment.

by: Rep. Jim Splaine @ Tue Sep 22, 2009 at 12:51:02 PM CDT

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A more meaningful New Year's Day than most. (0.00 / 0)

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by: Douglas E. Lindner @ Tue Sep 22, 2009 at 15:54:49 PM CDT

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Did you see that 92% or so of Iowans (4.00 / 1)

polled say marriage equality has had no impact in their day-to-day life?

This issue is a loser for the Kevin Smith & Maggie Gallagher crowd

by: Dean Barker @ Tue Sep 22, 2009 at 18:07:44 PM CDT

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Live Free or Die (0.00 / 0)

It's not just a line on our license plates that we go to Supreme Court to make sure is displayed on absolutely every plate.

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by: Douglas E. Lindner @ Tue Sep 22, 2009 at 20:14:11 PM CDT

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