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That Gun Control Case

by: elwood

Wed Mar 03, 2010 at 21:40:29 PM EST


Background:

Last year the Supreme Court ruled that Washington DC - in key respects an arm of the federal government -  is subject to previously unrecognized limits on its ability to regulate handguns. One aspect of the case was a conclusion that the Second Amendment recognizes an "individual" right to bear arms: that language is not strictly about state militias.

Now gun advocates are back at SCOTUS asking it to overturn gun laws in Illinois. The earlier case was about just what "right to bear arms" means. This case is about whether that right limits only the federal government or also each state.

The gun advocates argue that a state - that is, the elected government of the state, reflecting a majority of the voters - is blocked by the federal Constitution from imposing gun laws except in serious, not-yet-defined circumstances. (Age limits? That's for another case.)

Irony:

The gun advocates are very specifically arguing against state sovereignty here. I heard one advocate explicitly state, "The civil war and the 14th Amendment mean that states do not have the power to make these choices."

That's the legal argument, all right. The 14th Amendment, through "equal protection" and "due process" guarantees to individuals, means that states must accept those same limits that some of the provisions in the Bill of Rights put on the US itself. The case is about whether the Second Amendment is one of those provisions that should be "incorporated" into a limit on state power.

Libertarians - it seems to me - should be conflicted here.

The gun advocates are relying on remote federal power to trump the power of their neighbors to make law.

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Don't agree. What's being argued is that the (0.00 / 0)
federal government and, by incorporation, smaller political subdivisions can't decide what implements/things a person can or cannot carry with him, regardless of the purpose (to show off, to hunt and kill animals, to feel secure).  Though there seems to be some sense that while the intent of the person and the nature of the artifact aren't determinative, the location of the carrying might be--i.e. some implements can be excluded from public spaces.
Of course, if we were really concerned about weapons of mass destruction--i.e. those that can kill more than one person at a time--then we would prohibit their sale.  Period.  The commerce clause would permit that.

There are some people who are really keen on restricting what the individual person can do and content to let large groups foment all kinds of mayhem and terror. Why are people acting in groups (corporations, artificial persons) better than the individual person?

We are killing millions of people because we're afraid that some of their leaders MIGHT get possession of weapons of mass destruction we already have in spades and actually sold in the market before we ordered them destroyed.


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