Deportation Fever

The radio says they are just deportees (4.00 / 3)

Woddy's poem, Plane Wreck at Los Gatos.

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by: elwood @ Mon Aug 09, 2010 at 20:38:02 PM CDT

*Woody n/t (4.00 / 1)

6 days till election day
Have you knocked on doors today? Have you made calls ? Have you talked to your neighbors ?  

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by: JonnyBBad @ Mon Aug 09, 2010 at 22:34:37 PM CDT

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The reality is that citizenship is a bundle of obligations-- (4.00 / 1)

to vote
to serve on juries
to provide material support
to hold public office
to propose legislation
to enforce the laws

Citizenship is not a preferential status that could form as the basis of social stratification.  People born here are no better or worse than recent arrivals from foreign lands.  The Constitution addresses the obligations of agents of government to serve "persons."  Moreover, it requires that they be treated equally whenever and wherever they are within the jurisdiction of the U.S. -- i.e. where U.S. laws apply.

The segregationists, whose goal now is stratification (everyone assigned to a higher or lower category), rather than "exclusion" or "inclusion," have been casting about for new defining criteria.  Citizenship, they thought, was sufficiently neutral to escape the fate of the "protected" characteristics and on the basis of which "benefits" could be assigned to signal their status -- location in the strata.

The Supreme Court, in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld determined that a person's citizenship may not affect what the agents of government do to or for him.  Everybody has to be treated equally, just like at McDonald's.  I mention that because the franchise company has been mentioned derisively as catering to a low class population by the proponents of stratification.

Why do they need different strata?  I think it's because they've let themselves be convinced that as long as someone is worse off (socially, culturally, economically), they're doing OK, regardless of how much deprivation of their own rights they've put up with.  Misery not only loves company; it likes someone else to be more miserable.

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by: hannah @ Tue Aug 10, 2010 at 04:34:22 AM CDT

What is she talking about? (4.00 / 1)

The 14th Amendment does not protect people who are here "illegally".  Having a child who is an American citizen by birth does not protect the parents from deportation.

"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."  Franklin D. Roosevelt    

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by: Kathy Sullivan 2 @ Tue Aug 10, 2010 at 07:26:11 AM CDT

She's not talking to us (0.00 / 0)

unless we are planning to vote in the Republican primary.  But should she win the primary, how is she going to deny all these videos and appeal to enough NH voters to beat Paul Hodes?  You can deny written reports, but when you are being taped you had better not try to change your story later.

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by: Lucy Edwards @ Tue Aug 10, 2010 at 14:57:52 PM CDT

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In fairness to Kelly (0.00 / 0)

Jennifer was the one who said the 14th was not intended to protect "people who come here illegaly".

But, in any event, lest anyone still think Kelly Ayotte is a "New England Republican moderate" (a creature gone the way of the Dodo bird, but there are still a few who refuse to accept its extinction), her continued stroll down Fringe Avenue should put the lie to that notion. It has been clear for a few weeks now that she is going to win the primary. Lamontagne is mailing it in, Binnie's ballon has popped, and Bender ran out of time a long time ago. But, at a time when you would expect her to start trying to move toward the center if she was, in fact, one of those extinct creatures, she instead is issuing press releases attacking Kagan and agreeing with the idea of changing the 14th Amendment. She is out there with the extreme right - next thing you know she will be talking about nullification. Oops, she already did that. 11 months ago.

http://www.dscc.org/blog?blog_...




"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."  Franklin D. Roosevelt    

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by: Kathy Sullivan 2 @ Tue Aug 10, 2010 at 16:32:44 PM CDT

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