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Frank Guinita, the Extremist

by: Bill Duncan

Wed Sep 29, 2010 at 13:04:51 PM EDT


Frank Guinta is whining about Carol Shea-Porter characterizing his positions as extreme, but that's certainly the right word.  He tries to pour honey over them with a kind of oblique wording and tone, but it's hard to mistake the reality.

Here, cross-posted after the jump, is an oped I did in last Sunday's Portsmouth Herald that amplify's just that point.

Bill Duncan :: Frank Guinita, the Extremist
So now we know that Congresswoman Carol Shea-Porter will be running against Frank Guinta for Congress from the 1st Congressional District. There are big issues at stake.

Republicans have run on small government for generations, but the current version of Frank Guinta and his band of tea partiers goes a lot further. Pick any issue. It's hard to imagine a position further to the right than Frank's.

Here's Frank on Social Security in Rochester in May:

"Let's not forget that Social Security is something the government created. And now we're trying to have a government solution to a problem government created. Government's the problem here, ladies and gentlemen. When Social Security was created, we didn't have the wealth of private sector solution for lifetime savings that you do today. We have to honor the obligations that have been made to those who are reliant on the federal government - older generations. But future generations should seek different private sector solutions and have personal responsibility start to lead the way. My kids are 6 and 5. They shouldn't know what Social Security is!"

So there it is. Frank Guinta, the former insurance agent, thinks Social Security should be replaced with private insurance. Carol Shea-Porter says that, in spite of what you hear, Social Security is basically healthy and relatively minor tweaks are needed to ensure the long term financial health of the system.

On a woman's right to choose, Frank was equally certain up in Laconia: his position is that a woman has no right to choose - no exceptions, under any circumstances, from day one, even when her life is at stake. This is an extreme position, but it looks to me indicative of all of Frank's positions.

He castigated Sean Mahoney for not wanting to deport undocumented immigrants. Who would actually think that, as a practical matter, it's actually possible to do that? What kind of country would set out to deport 5 percent of its population? But these kinds of concerns about actually governing are not Frank's concerns. He knows what he thinks.

I've attended a bunch of his events and started to realize that he doesn't actually know stuff - he's mainly got opinions. He wants the United States to pull out of the UN, but at a town hall meeting in August, he didn't know that the United States was the largest (by far) financial supporter of the UN. So, without really understanding the implications of his position, he's proposing to do away with the UN. At his Exeter town hall, he was against health care reform, but couldn't answer questions about health insurance coverage for New Hampshire citizens. If you try to engage him in a discussion about Social Security, you just get the bit about his kids.

He's certain of his positions, but beyond that doesn't seem to know what's going on. But - and this is the worrisome part - he's willing to say anything. The kerfuffle about where he got $355,000 to put into his campaign ($110,000 in the last few days) is a good example. He might just be someone who doesn't pay much attention to detail and forgot to report those assets when he should have. But when questions arose, his campaign said the money came from stocks he sold. Then Frank said the money came from the forgotten bank accounts. He won't release the account records, so it's hard to tell what's going on. Maybe that will get straightened out now that he's made it through the primary.

The picture that emerges to me is of someone loyal to his rhetorical positions and willing to say whatever it takes to prop them up.

Across-the-board spending cuts. Tax cuts. Get rid of the Department of Education and the Department of Energy. All these are totemic positions in the rhetorical world of tea parties and don't-tread-on-me flags. Which is fine. But the notion of a New Hampshire congressman who has great confidence in these positions but doesn't know what's going on - that's scary.

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Guinta is clueless and dangerous (4.00 / 3)
Last Summer, at a health care "town hall" in Exeter, I asked him how many people in NH were uninsured.  He looked at his staff and then told me he didn't have that figure but he'd get back to me.  I was 147,000 at the time.  Never did hear from Frank.  

and what was shocking about that was... (4.00 / 1)
Guinta (ironically enough) has only had one non-governmental job... he worked for an insurance company.  Insurance is supposedly his field, but he did not know the answer to Joan's very basic question.

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Excellent take-down of the Tea Party (4.00 / 1)
by Matt Taibbi in Rolling Stone (as an aside, where is the main stream media on this crap?)  The article hits the Tea Baggers with a focus on Rand Paul.  Here's a snippet:


Vast forests have already been sacrificed to the public debate about the Tea Party: what it is, what it means, where it's going. But after lengthy study of the phenomenon, I've concluded that the whole miserable narrative boils down to one stark fact: They're full of shit. All of them. At the voter level, the Tea Party is a movement that purports to be furious about government spending - only the reality is that the vast majority of its members are former Bush supporters who yawned through two terms of record deficits and spent the past two electoral cycles frothing not about spending but about John Kerry's medals and Barack Obama's Sixties associations. The average Tea Partier is sincerely against government spending - with the exception of the money spent on them. In fact, their lack of embarrassment when it comes to collecting government largesse is key to understanding what this movement is all about - and nowhere do we see that dynamic as clearly as here in Kentucky, where Rand Paul is barreling toward the Senate with the aid of conservative icons like Palin.

We've seen this with Rand Paul, Sharon Angle, and, closer to home, Frank Guinta.  Guinta is against government unless it's guaranteeing his student loans (while he denies he ever had them).  Guinta is against government unless he's demanding more and faster ARRA funds.  Guinta is against government except when he's getting a paycheck from us.

What is frightening is that these warts don't scare off the Tea Baggers - they embolden them.  Guinta won the primary despite his scandals - it really is obscene.  



"Physical concepts are free creations of the human mind, and are not, however it may seem, uniquely determined by the external world." A. Einstein


Work For Carol Shea Porter (0.00 / 0)

Take Bill Duncan's lead.

Write op-eds, write letters, put out signs, to the grunt work like phone banking--Do whatever you can to Keep Carol in office and say no to Not-So-Frank Guinta.


Instinct-driven people, typically, don't think before they (0.00 / 0)
speak.  So, it's not unusual for their subconscious to reveal truths they'd rather not have spread.
When Guinta says his young kids
shouldn't know what Social Security is

he's not just asserting that he wants them to feel insecure; he's expressing a preference for keeping them dependent on him and obedient to his demands in order to claim their inheritance.  Inherited wealth is most often a constraint by which the current generation expects to exert influence from beyond the grave.
"personal responsibility" in this context means that if the resources you need to survive aren't sufficient, it's because you've not been subservient enough to deserve to live.  The right to life is an entitlement, but living has to be deserved.

Somebody ought to ask Guinta what happened to the obligation to provide for the general welfare.  Conservatives prefer to argue that the one and only obligation of the federal government is to provide for the common defense -- ideally suited to the slothful, considering that there's no-one to defend against.

Presumably, defending the nation against non-existent enemies, which is bound to be a success, is designed as a counter-balance to all the other agendas that are designed to fail.


This is great, Bill. (0.00 / 0)
I've had it on my to-do list to link to it, so thanks for posting it here.

birch, finch, beech

thx.. (0.00 / 0)
I'm thinking if independents understand this...

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Ayotte (0.00 / 0)
Ayotte is as clueless as Guinta.  

Yes, but, she's "easy on the eyes" and when (0.00 / 0)
superficial optics are in play, the teabaggers can see themselves in her relative youth.

The instinct-driven live in the here and now and it's they who are the target of most of the laudatory press, while Democratic voters are supposed to be depressed.

It's very tempting to respond to Foster's misrepresentations.  But, like Glenn Beck, their outrageous endorsement of Republicans a month before the election is designed to attract eyeballs to a product that hardly anyone is buying.


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please edit ..Guinta...kept seeing the extra i n/t (0.00 / 0)


for transparency sake ~I represent Union print shops

thx h/t (0.00 / 0)


for transparency sake ~I represent Union print shops

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