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Bragdon's Blasphemy

by: JonnyBBad

Sun Oct 02, 2011 at 07:47:26 AM EDT


h/t Lucy McVitty Webber for sharing Tom Fahey's column today...

In District-16 our Republican Senator David Boutin voted against the RTW bill and voted to uphold the Governor's veto. He also saw the light on Voter I.D. as initially construed. The Presdient of the Senate also understands the Constitution is the law, not Bully O.
Can you imagine that its "worth it to do it it right", "to become more educated on issues" over time?? Man oh man, that will start some dumb tongues wagging!
Senator Bragdon I hope you exercise the right to be become informed on issues every day. Its a good habit, when the Mad Hatter's House is in session.

http://www.unionleader.com/art... With the flood of bills that come through in a few months time, Boutin said, "we don't always get it right the first time, but we got it right by saying we'll continue to work on it."

Bragdon, too, waved off Bates' criticism.

"I reserve the right to become more educated on issues as time goes by. I think it's worth it to do it right," he said.

Master Bates never knew or cared apparently, until he received Asst.AG Mavrageorge's letter explaining why the NH Constitution does not allow for  provisional ballots.

The Court said nearly 140 years ago that Part 2, Art. 32 is meant to allow detection of any error and "correction of it immediately, when it can most easily be corrected." Mavrageorge said, "unlike other states that allow voters to be counted after Election Day, the New Hampshire Constitution requires that the moderator declare the results on Election Day."

Senate Bill 129 easily passed the Senate as a voter ID bill, but without a provisional ballot clause. That was the House's idea, and after it passed there, the Senate went along, 14-9. But the Senate defeated a veto override attempt last month, 17-7.

City and town clerks told senators over the summer that they hated the bill, saying it was a threat to orderly voting and a bureaucratic pain in the neck that begged for errors and court challenges.

House Election Law chairman Rep. David Bates said Mavrageorge's letter was the first he'd heard of constitutional problems with the bill.

"Nobody ever raised the issue," he said.


Really? The issue is that you don't know diddly do Crusader, and we've raised it right along.
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Voter ID (4.00 / 3)
Thanks for posting this.  A subcommittee of the House Election Law Committee will meet this Wednesday (Oct. 5) at 10 am in Room 308 of the LOB to work on another ID bill (HB356).  There are at least two bills being worked on in the Senate. Still no evidence that any of these bills address a problem that exists outside of O'Brien's and Bates' imaginations.

I was just thinking... (0.00 / 0)
Ballot clerks in my town (Durham) and elsewhere have commented that many Republican voters appeared at the polls in November 2010 who had never been seen before.  It's an unpleasant thing to consider, but could some of those voters have been imposters?  

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hat trick Calvin h/t (0.00 / 0)


A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. Ralph Waldo Emerson (1803-1882)

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Imposters? (4.00 / 2)
It's tempting to say that the reason Republicans are so convinced there is voter fraud is because they are projecting their own actions onto others. More likely, the unfamiliar faces were brought to the polls by a few very well funded and active campaigns that seemed to have a chance to overturn the dominance of the Democrats in Durham.

There simply is no evidence in N.H. or anywhere else in the U.S. that people are pretending to be other people in order to steal votes.  That is the only form of fraud that could be detected by requiring photo IDs. No other kind of fraud could be detected by photo ID.


Voter Fraud (0.00 / 0)
There is evidence, though, that in some places where votes are tallied electronically, there is much fraud.  Why does the republic party like electronic voting? Is it to manipulate the results?  

where would that be pray tell ? n/t (0.00 / 0)


A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. Ralph Waldo Emerson (1803-1882)

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