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Open Thread: Final Jeopardy Edition

by: elwood

Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 08:57:32 AM EST
The final debate before the New Hampshire primary begins at 9 AM - 12 hours after the start of the previous one.

There's a strong chance that one or two candidates will drop out after Tuesday's voting. Contrary to some pundits,  Rick Perry is not the worst, most over-hyped candidate in recent memory (he is tied with Fred Thompson for that honor). If he comes in fifth, not close to fourth place, his candidacy will have crossed into "standing joke" territory. Huntsman has bet a lot on New Hampshire - he could be invigorated by Tuesday vote, but if not, it's hard to see a case for continuing (South Carolina, Florida, and Super Tuesday don't look friendlier for him).

Two contrary tendencies will drive the debate: a) the  effort to close out their campaigns on a positive note, focused on looking Presidential rather than taking opponents down a peg; and b) taking advantage of the same-news-cycle opportunity to catch opponents in whoppers told last night. Mitt Romney is particularly vulnerable there for his claims on job creation.

I still haven't washed last night's popcorn bowl. This is an open thread.
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Open Thread: Final Jeopardy Edition | 19 comments
Could Newt also drop out after NH? (0.00 / 0)
A fourth-place showing, despite support from the UL and some state party leaders, might prompt painful reassessment...
Good debate so far (0.00 / 0)
Moderators make a difference. Still not enough follow up, but  Gregory is doing a better job.  



"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."  Franklin D. Roosevelt    
Definitely. If they hadn't run out of time last night I expect the next (4.00 / 2)
question from George or Diane would have been, "What's your sign?"
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Romney against federal fuel assistance. n/t (0.00 / 0)




"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."  Franklin D. Roosevelt    
I am so looking forward to Wednesday morning (4.00 / 2)
when the only sound we'll hear is the guys with the shovels cleaning up after the elephant parade.  

November 2012
Hope for a return to sanity.
I'm confused (4.00 / 7)
Santorum criticized Iran for being a religious society, then later President Obama for being secular based.  



"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."  Franklin D. Roosevelt    
President Barack Obama Won, Again (0.00 / 0)
I've watched every debate these past 6 months -- over a dozen.  Perhaps I should find better things to do.

For this one, the winner:  President Barack Obama, who is able to remain aloof of all this rancor and who is benefiting from this endless Republican division. He's governing, the Republicans are fighting.

Rick Santorum had a better debate, but that's because yesterday he did so poorly.  Newt Gingrich did well today too, perhaps his best debate.  Rick Perry was "most improved," going from F to F+. Jon Huntsman didn't get to make much impact.

Mitt Romney continued to show that he's the Republican to beat but was a bit injured. Two candidates were running for the Vice Presidential nomination: Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich, but the latter's constant, and effective, bashing of Romney- Bain & Co. leaves bad blood.  That issue has legs, if not the next few hours before the NH Primary, perhaps in South Carolina 11 days later.  And certainly for November.  Mr. 99% Man.  

And John Distaso had the best questions, as did Josh McElveen last night. They, and James Pindell, could have done both debates by themselves better than the nationals.    

once again Ron is the only one to talk about... (0.00 / 0)
the entitlements that are showered on big business and the military industrial complex which,in fact, own Congress....couldn't we get folks to talk about sacrifice and start with entitlements on the powerful (i.e. what Paul said) and then move to the entitlements that keep the rest of us from entering the poor house.  It is time the word entitlement is velcroed to Wall Street and Defense Contractors
true (4.00 / 2)
but he's still batshit crazy 99% of the time.

GOLD! AUSTRIA! INCUBATOR!  

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I Agree... (0.00 / 0)
...and can't understand why so many "young people" can support that guy, other than their inability to critically think and see through him because they've been exposed to so many Madison Avenue ads throughout their lives.  
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Nothing to Do With Thinking (4.00 / 1)
It's Paul's stand on legalization of drugs that appeals to many of them.
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Sorry (4.00 / 1)
That was my comment, not Gary's. I forgot to change users.
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true (4.00 / 2)
but he's still batshit crazy 99% of the time.

GOLD! AUSTRIA! INCUBATOR!  

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I Agree Twice As Much... (0.00 / 0)
......and still can't understand why so many "young people" can support that guy, other than their inability to critically think and see through him because they've been exposed to so many Madison Avenue ads throughout their lives.  
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Ooops (4.00 / 3)
my laptop keys were a little balky after long disuse, hence the doubling of your pleasure.

Young people have been hearing that government is bad, and government is the problem since they were born. They're fair game for a creep like Ron Paul.  

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I've often called Kelly Ayotte "The Cypher" .... (4.00 / 1)
.... and she told Chuck Todd on MSNBC that candidates should not weigh-in on the campaign to repeal New Hampshire's same-sex marriage law because it's .... off-message .......

   She is a perfect example of someone who has been trained so well to keep her real thoughts hidden, so as not to give opponents much room to disagree. And it's at-odds with Planet Starboard's more recent openness ....

 "We should pay attention to that man behind the curtain."

Ayotte (4.00 / 1)
Needs to be A ONE TERM SENATOR.
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Six years is much too long (4.00 / 1)
for anyone to have to put up with a Senator from K Street.  
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Suggested Democratic get-together event and photo-op: (0.00 / 0)
A friendly, good-natured game of bean-bag.
Open Thread: Final Jeopardy Edition | 19 comments

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