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Team Clinton: Florida and Michigan a Civil Rights Issue

by: Dean Barker

Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 08:27:13 AM EST


The closer we get toward a scenario involving a delegate fight right down to the convention, the more Team Clinton builds up a legitimacy narrative for Florida and Michigan.  Here Wolfson in a conference call with Bowers very, very cleverly pits a non-Democratic superdelegate scenario against the "civil rights" issue of seating FL's and MI's delegates:
Because of the issues I raised in today's earlier article on super delegates determining the nominee, like Matt I jumped on a conference call with the Clinton campaign. I prepared myself by typing out the following question:

Do you think there is a meaningful difference in the democratic, lower d, quality of super delegates and pledged delegates, or that there could be a crisis of legitimacy in the Democratic nominee if he or she wins the nomination without the support of the majority of pledged delegates?

To my surprise, the campaign actually took my question, along with those from he likes of Ron Brownstein and Judy Woodruff (that was pretty cool--my zero years of journalist training are finally paying off). Although I lack sophisticated recording techniques, I did manage to take down most of their response. The basic gist of their response was as follows:

The rules the party has put in place to choose its nominee are not the rules of the Clinton campaign and, just like the Obama campaign, we are doing what we can under those rules to secure the requisite number of delegates for the nomination. One way to avoid the situation described above is to figure out some way to honor the votes of Michigan and Florida, where there was record turnout. Counting the delegates in Florida and Michigan is a civil rights issue, and a solution needs to be figured out before the convention. (Note: italicized text should not be considered a direct quote, just my quick transcription.)

At this rate, I fully expect the meme to be that those who oppose, like I, seating the delegates prior to a nominee being declared are against "democracy" or somesuch.
Dean Barker :: Team Clinton: Florida and Michigan a Civil Rights Issue
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I don't think I like the smell of retroactivity. (4.00 / 3)
Changing the rules in the middle of the game is not the American way.

School on a Sunday (4.00 / 1)
is all I can think when the Clintons try to get credit for a win when there was no contest. How can they say it counts when there was no real choice? I can't help but get agrivated when I read this.
Record turnout? Yes. 40% of which (MI) voted Not-Hillary. What about the civil rights of those voters to have their voices heard? Should they do it all over again? If they want it to count I think they should.

Obsessed is just a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated.

Rules, schmules... (4.00 / 6)
Once there were two kids, Hillary and Barack. Both vying to be valedictorian of their class...

At the beginning of the year, the Science teacher said there would be two "practice tests" during the term whose scores would not be used to calculate GPA. Hillary was the only student to take one of the "tests." On the other, neither Hillary nor Barack studied, but Hillary started bragging about how well she did.

Now it's time for the finals and Hillary's worried that her GPA might not be enough to win the title of valedictorian. So, being the tough, experienced player she is, Hillary gets some of her friends together and starts a petition to force the teacher to count those practice tests as part of the GPA. It's only fair, after all... It's fair because she did well.

I get that Hillary is scrappy and trying to get as many delegates as possible in her column. Good for her. But don't spit in my face and tell me it raining, and don't tell me this has anything to do with fairness, democracy, or caring about the voters of Florida. It insults my intelligence.

Not as smart as I think I am, but not as dumb as I look.


Clearly one thing that should come out of this cycle is (0.00 / 0)
the need for "Primary Reform".

Hope > Fear



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