Saturday's Delegate Selection and State Committee Meeting

Douglas... (4.00 / 1)

Thanks for the posting this. It has been quite the day.

Here are some of my observations too...

The NH delegation is now 12 Obama, 12 Clinton and 4 Edwards with two uncommitted.

The majority of the NH delegation are first time delegates.

NH delegation is 37% from "historically underreptesented groups" (Black, Latino, Asian-Pacific, Native American, LGBT, disabled, over 65, under 25).

I think Anita Freedman appreciated the show of respect by those who have served with her on the DNC. The June 20th testimonial salute in Portsmouth for Anita will be great.

Congrats to Peter Burling and Kathy Sullivan for both being elected delegates and also elected to the DNC.

I predict that Gaetan will be leader in the NHDP for years.

Congrats to Meg Hassan of Exeter and Brady Manning for being selected as the delegation pages. I think they did a great job with their essays.

more later...


2012 starts today.

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by: Ray Buckley @ Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 22:44:54 PM CDT

some more observations... (4.00 / 1)

Freshman state rep. David Pierce was also a two-fer yesterday - he was elected to the NHDP's rules committee and became the Arrangements Chair for the NH Delegation to Denver.

Witnessing Kathy get choked up talking about her parents never gets old.

Dave Scannell gave the best speech of the day.

Not sure if a machine has been invented that is more efficient than the NHDP staff.

The IOP is a NH treasure.

Kudos to Coos County Chair Paul Robitaille for giving back the 50/50!

Once again youth is represented - we have an 19 year old and a 20 year old delegate.

We have three African American Delegates.

Chris and I make it two openly gay delegates.

And we have five over 65.

Congrats to Paul Twomey for being elected to the National Platform Committee  and to Donna Soucy and Joe Foster for being named to the Credential and Rules Committees respectively.

Our status as the new majority party is highlighted by the number of elected officials that will be attending the convention:

Our governor.

Both members of congress.

Four members of the senate.

Five members of the House (plus two state reps who are NHDP employees)

One county elected official.

One city councilor.

One school board member.

more later...


2012 starts today.

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by: Ray Buckley @ Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 07:30:01 AM CDT

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Dave's speech (0.00 / 0)

was great, although Kevin's was pretty good too.

New motto for the Committee to Elect House Democrats

We Still Are Not Satisfied!  

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by: sdoyle @ Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 09:22:57 AM CDT

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As if we're in a restaurant and our table doesn't have enough chairs... (0.00 / 0)

I have a mental picture of Kevin walking around the House floor asking Republicans, "are you using this seat?"

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No tea; no decaf.

@DougLindner

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by: Douglas E. Lindner @ Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 10:48:24 AM CDT

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youtube me (0.00 / 0)

Someone have a video of the Khodgey address?  I def want a copy.

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by: HarrellKirstein @ Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 12:23:50 PM CDT

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I'm relatively certain there was no video. (0.00 / 0)

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No tea; no decaf.

@DougLindner

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by: Douglas E. Lindner @ Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 13:24:48 PM CDT

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It was a good meeting (0.00 / 0)

Ray kept it very "concise"

BH-ers stuck together, Kathy and I had a good time sitting next to each other, commenting on the "conciseness" of the meeting, every now and then.

Congrats to Kathy and Peter, we know you will serve NH well as our DNC Reps!

All in all a great meeting, got to go over some really interesting material, looking forward to hearing what the NHDP has to say about splitting up Hillsborough County (good thing or a bad thing, not really sure, I am interested in hearing more on the subject).

Good to see Doug there! (as well as Jamie Judd, Kevin Hodges, Judy Reardon, Ray, and Dave Scannell)

Next stop State Convention!

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by: sdoyle @ Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 22:51:52 PM CDT

The Second Coming of New Hampshire for Richardson is nigh. (0.00 / 0)

And by that, I mean a lot of us were there, and in a number of cases, working for the Party.  Speaking of which, congratulations to Dan McKenna, who is getting married today.

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No tea; no decaf.

@DougLindner

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by: Douglas E. Lindner @ Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 23:02:35 PM CDT

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Other than you and Sean, (0.00 / 0)

who DON'T I employ?

2012 starts today.

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by: Ray Buckley @ Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 07:03:08 AM CDT

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Ha (0.00 / 0)

Yea, I think Doug and I are the only two people from the Richardson campaign that are still in NH that DON'T work for the Party.

But I would be willing to help you out on that problem Ray :)

Congrats to Dan as well!

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by: sdoyle @ Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 09:20:27 AM CDT

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Just Sean (0.00 / 0)

In a couple weeks, I'll be coming to work for the Senate Caucus.

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No tea; no decaf.

@DougLindner

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by: Douglas E. Lindner @ Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 10:42:42 AM CDT

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One is the loneliest number (4.00 / 1)

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by: sdoyle @ Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 11:29:34 AM CDT

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Don't forget about me! (4.00 / 1)

Although to be fair, if I did have a job (I'm a full-time student) it would probably be for the Party...

"He who loves correction, loves knowledge.  He who hates reproof is stupid." - Proverbs 12:1

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by: jdblanch @ Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 21:40:12 PM CDT

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Excellent!!! (4.00 / 1)

Energy and persistence conquer all things.


Benjamin Franklin


 

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by: Kathy Sullivan @ Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 14:06:40 PM CDT

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Since I am totally new to this (0.00 / 0)

Can someone explain the affirmation action rules in regards to seating the member to the Credentials Committee?  

I'm sure this was contentious because, it will be the credentials committee that ultimately decides whether or not to seat Florida and Michigan's delegates and could decide the nomination in a brokered convention...  

Feeling hopeful since 2004...now "Secretary" of the New Boston Democratic Caucus

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by: Kelly Nordstrom @ Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 07:06:44 AM CDT

To make a long story short (4.00 / 2)

NH is entitled to one member on each of the three standing committees: credentials, rules and platform (this rules committee is not the same thing as the DNC Rules Committee). The rules required the standing committees to be gender balanced, so, with an uneven number (three),  you have to have either two women and one man, or, two men and one woman. Each of Obama, Clinton and Edwards were entitled to nominate a member to each committee; th nominations had to be in by five pm last Friday. The Clinton campaign nominated a woman for the credentials committee, Chaz Proulx to the platform committee, and another man to the rules committee. Obama nominated one man for all three committees, and the Edwards campaign nominated one man for each of the three committees. As a result, since there had to be one woman member of the standing committees, and the only woman nominated was one for only one committee, the credentials committee, the chairman ruled that she had to be awarded the committee, basically by default.  Had either Edwards or Obama nominated a woman to one of the committees, there would have been a vote on credentials. Having said that, I spoke with enough people later to ascertain that there would have been enough votes to elect the Clinton nominee to credentials anyway.
The rules were drafted well over a year ago, well before anyone had any idea that credentials would mean anything. The gender equality rules have been around for decades.
I'm not sure why you say this was contentious. When the chairman made his ruling, he was asked to explain it, he did, one Obama delegate made a statement that he thought it was unfortunate, and that was pretty much it. Overall, the three candidate delegations were very cohesive.  

Energy and persistence conquer all things.


Benjamin Franklin


 

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by: Kathy Sullivan @ Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 07:50:28 AM CDT

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Thanks Kathy! (0.00 / 0)

Doesn't sound contentious.  I wasn't able to run for delegate for Obama because of my daughter's surgery in December, and I'm not sure if any of his NH delegates are women (are they?)--- but seems to point out the importance of campaigns being well informed about the NH processes and making sure that different people are nominated for each othe different committees.

When my life is more normal (when will that be?) I hope to be more involved.

On a different note, will you be at the Bash?

Feeling hopeful since 2004...now "Secretary" of the New Boston Democratic Caucus

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by: Kelly Nordstrom @ Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 07:58:04 AM CDT

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I was the first one to call it contentious, in the original diary. (0.00 / 0)

I simply meant that a lot of people weren't happy to see that happen that way, and there was some argument about it until it was determined that nobody could do anything about it.

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No tea; no decaf.

@DougLindner

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by: Douglas E. Lindner @ Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 10:45:51 AM CDT

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yes (0.00 / 0)

1. NH was alloted ONE position on the Credentials, Platform and Rules Committees.

2. Each campaign was eligible for ONE slot on ONE committee.

3. For gender diversity no more than two committee members can be of the same gender: 2 M and 1 F or 2 F and 1 M but never 3 M of 3 F.

4. The campaigns must name their choices for each of the committees in a letter to me by 5pm Friday April 25.

5. On April 11, Hillary submitted Donna Soucy for Credentials, Chaz Proulx for Platform and Ed Foley for Rules.

6. On April 23, Obama submitted Paul Twomey for all three committees.

7. On April 23, Edwards submitted Joe Foster for all three committees.

8. Since Donna was the only female nominated for any position by any candidate. Donna was declared the winner for the Credentials Committee.

9. In the race between Paul and Joe for Platform, Paul won.

10. Joe was declared the member of Rules by default.

2012 starts today.

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by: Ray Buckley @ Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 07:55:24 AM CDT

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sorry (0.00 / 0)

I was writing when Kathy responded. Sorry for the redundancy.

2012 starts today.

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by: Ray Buckley @ Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 08:02:14 AM CDT

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I can never have enough schooling... (0.00 / 0)

I hope that if/when the Credentials Committee becomes relevant in Denver (thought that it isn't typically), that Ms. Soucy, whom I don't know and don't know anything about will keep in mind the First in the Nation Primary, and what seating full delegations from MI and FL would mean...


Feeling hopeful since 2004...now "Secretary" of the New Boston Democratic Caucus

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by: Kelly Nordstrom @ Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 19:52:01 PM CDT

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Terry McAuliffe's advice: Call their bluff (0.00 / 0)

From Kos

"I'm going outside the primary window," [Michigan Sen. Carl Levin] told me definitively.

"If I allow you to do that, the whole system collapses," I said. "We will have chaos. I let you make your case to the DNC, and we voted unanimously and you lost."

He kept insisting that they were going to move up Michigan on their own, even though if they did that, they would lose half their delegates. By that point Carl and I were leaning toward each other over a table in the middle of the room, shouting and dropping the occasional expletive.

"You won't deny us seats at the convention," he said.

"Carl, take it to the bank," I said. "They will not get a credential. The closest they'll get to Boston will be watching it on television. I will not let you break this entire nominating process for one state. The rules are the rules. If you want to call my bluff, Carl, you go ahead and do it."

We glared at each other some more, but there was nothing much left to say. I was holding all the cards and Levin knew it.

[Source: McAuliffe, Terry. What A Party!, p. 325.]

Whack-a-mole, anyone?

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by: Jack Mitchell @ Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 20:12:07 PM CDT

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Unfortunately, the Clintons have the connections to make the nightmare a reality. (0.00 / 0)

And Terry McAuliffe is her national chairman.  Oh, how I wish Billy Shaheen hadn't, through a rare, unfortunate moment of idiocy, lost his own co-chairmanship; he would have at least been able to make a big stink about this.

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No tea; no decaf.

@DougLindner

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by: Douglas E. Lindner @ Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 21:47:06 PM CDT

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Speaking of the Convention... (4.00 / 1)

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by: sdoyle @ Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 09:26:50 AM CDT

Write up in the Globe (0.00 / 0)

NH Dems elect party delegates, reflect on Clinton-Obama race

April 26, 2008
MANCHESTER, N.H.-New Hampshire Democrats elected the remaining members of their delegation to the party's national convention on Saturday, confirming what is playing out on the national stage -- the two candidates are in a close race and their supporters are passionately behind them.

The state party will send 30 delegates to the convention in Denver, including seven superdelegates, two of whom remain uncommitted.

Here's how the numbers appear to stack up: 12 delegates each for Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton and four for former Sen. John Edwards, who stopped campaigning, but has not officially withdrawn from the race. At least two of the four Edward delegates said they have not yet selected a new candidate.

Obama had been ahead by one delegate -- even with Clinton winning the popular vote in the New Hampshire primary. But Party Chairman Ray Buckley selected his predecessor, Kathy Sullivan, for the "unpledged delegate" on Saturday. Sullivan was Clinton's co-chair in the state.

Buckley, a superdelegate whose allegiance remains a mystery, said his choice of Sullivan should not be seen as an indication of how he will vote. He said he made the offer long ago.

"It was before anybody had announced for president," Buckley said. "It was before Hillary or Obama had come to New Hampshire for their first trip, and it was a good ten months before she (Sullivan) decided to even be involved in the campaign."

Buckley said he plans to make his preference known at the convention. Gov. John Lynch, also a superdelegate, has not pledged yet.
-snip

Whack-a-mole, anyone?

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by: Jack Mitchell @ Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 14:06:09 PM CDT

Honestly (4.00 / 5)

I can't think of anyone that I have come to acquaint myself with here on BH that should be in Denver more then Kathy Sullivan.

Ray,
On a partisan basis, I could fabricate an argument on your choice for no other reason then to cause a ruckus, but that is old politics.

Your party and your state will be well served with Kathy present. Then, of course you already new that.

Kudos!

Whack-a-mole, anyone?

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by: Jack Mitchell @ Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 14:17:28 PM CDT

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The good news is.. (4.00 / 1)

Four years from now I won't appoint her a delegate because as a DNC member she returns to her rightful post as a super delegate.

I think I will appoint Judy Reardon, she's never been a delegate. But that is four years from now, I won't have to make a promise for another two years and a few months!

2012 starts today.

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by: Ray Buckley @ Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 15:13:06 PM CDT

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Easy guy (0.00 / 0)

Ya know these SD spots are precious. Think about bartering for something good.

You gave this one up based on merit. Think of the potential...

]:->

Whack-a-mole, anyone?

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by: Jack Mitchell @ Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 17:31:18 PM CDT

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I believe Mr. Mitchell is referencing elwood's April Fools joke about auctioning electoral votes. (4.00 / 1)

And if I'm mistaken in seeing that connection, he should lie and say he did, indeed, intend it, for that makes the whole thing funnier.

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No tea; no decaf.

@DougLindner

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by: Douglas E. Lindner @ Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 21:49:15 PM CDT

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notice the emoticon n/t (0.00 / 0)

Whack-a-mole, anyone?

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by: Jack Mitchell @ Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 22:02:51 PM CDT

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I wasn't aware before Saturday that the seat Kathy was appointed to existed (0.00 / 0)

Which is surprising, considering I thought I had a pretty extensive grasp of how the delegates were chosen.

More to the point, though, Kathy seems an obvious choice.

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No tea; no decaf.

@DougLindner

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by: Douglas E. Lindner @ Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 21:41:42 PM CDT

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Stan Post provided the low point of yesterday's meeting... (0.00 / 1)

...personally insulting people who voted for Peter over Gaetan.

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by: Putney Swope @ Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 21:12:54 PM CDT

Unfortunately... (4.00 / 2)

I got the worst of it.  I didn't mind being called fat and ugly but when he said I should be a Republican?  That just crossed the line!  

Don'tja just love full contact politics?

PS Since I've never had a latte, is it still possible to be a latte Democrat?

Why do you say socialism like it's a bad thing?

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by: Beth Campbell @ Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 07:08:44 AM CDT

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No way (4.00 / 1)

Maybe some blogging culture should be brought to these meetings.

Stickers with 0s and 4s can be slapped on people after they speak.

Maybe not a great idea, but an idea.

Whack-a-mole, anyone?

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by: Jack Mitchell @ Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 08:36:44 AM CDT

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Yea (0.00 / 0)

that was uncalled for, I heard him swearing...

I was thinking to myself, aren't we Democrats, for a moment I thought I was at the NHGOP meeting.

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by: sdoyle @ Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 12:12:38 PM CDT

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It is worth mentioning, of course, that Gaetan was gracious, and even asked that the vote which he lost be made unanimous. (4.00 / 1)

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No tea; no decaf.

@DougLindner

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by: Douglas E. Lindner @ Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 10:14:34 AM CDT

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Who are you! (0.00 / 0)

Well, Mr. Lindner,
She didn't call you an asshole so I guess you can like her all you want.  

Stanley Devorin-Post

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by: Stanley Devorin-Post @ Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 20:21:10 PM CDT

Then again, I didn't call her anything either... (0.00 / 1)

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No tea; no decaf.

@DougLindner

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by: Douglas E. Lindner @ Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 20:23:38 PM CDT

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George W. Bush (4.00 / 4)

Dick Cheney
Rush Limbaugh
Craig Benson
Jeb Bradley
John E. Sununu
John H. Sununu
Ted Gatsas
Al Baldasarro
Bill O'Reilly
Jack Ambramoff
Allen Raymond
Chuck Magee
John McCain
Johnny Stephen
Frank Guinta
John Tobin
Tom Delay
Ed Naile
Karen Testerman
Tom Eaton
Gene Chandler
The last 7 GOP State Chairs
Charlie Bass

...Just trying to focus our energies guys...


2012 starts today.

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by: Ray Buckley @ Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 21:03:32 PM CDT

I just fell off my chair. (0.00 / 0)

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No tea; no decaf.

@DougLindner

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by: Douglas E. Lindner @ Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 21:11:13 PM CDT

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Dud Gregg ?? (0.00 / 0)

 off the list ?

for transparency sake ~I represent Union print shops

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by: JonnyBBad @ Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 06:07:32 AM CDT

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Judd is soooo yesterday... (0.00 / 0)

I forgot he was still around! I also forgot about Ray Wieczorek, Ray Burton, Bob Clegg, Joe Kenney, Linda Horn, Grant Bosse...anyone else?

2012 starts today.

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by: Ray Buckley @ Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 06:35:06 AM CDT

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Joe Kenney (4.00 / 1)

was appointed to NH Citizens Trade Policy Commission as the Republican Senator, but in 7 months he has yet to make an appearance. I guess he's not affected by tainted Heparin, lead in toys, child labor, slave labor, water rights or State Sovereignty issues under NAFTA, WTO, S.P.P., CAFTA etc etc

for transparency sake ~I represent Union print shops

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by: JonnyBBad @ Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 19:41:30 PM CDT

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rumor mongering (0.00 / 0)

I was out of state and missed the meeting, I have an old friend who is sick, and his band was performing with Eric Burdon and the Animals, so I went to CT to support ...

Kathy, did Jane Clemons yell at you and Ray at the conclusion to the meeting ? I heard rumors to that effect ???

for transparency sake ~I represent Union print shops

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by: JonnyBBad @ Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 06:10:31 AM CDT

I heard a rumor (0.00 / 0)

That you are a silly goose, but I said no, no, no, a thousand times no, Jon Bresler is not a goose.  



"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."  Franklin D. Roosevelt    

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by: Kathy Sullivan 2 @ Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 08:17:26 AM CDT

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I am dilly-gent n/t (0.00 / 0)

for transparency sake ~I represent Union print shops

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by: JonnyBBad @ Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 09:37:21 AM CDT

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Definately more of a .. (0.00 / 0)

Dilly-ttante.

Whack-a-mole, anyone?

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by: Jack Mitchell @ Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 10:22:57 AM CDT

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But does he dillydally? (0.00 / 0)

"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."  Franklin D. Roosevelt    

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by: Kathy Sullivan 2 @ Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 10:37:09 AM CDT

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Daringly, he does. (0.00 / 0)

Whack-a-mole, anyone?

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by: Jack Mitchell @ Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 13:17:12 PM CDT

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no shilly shally here n/t (0.00 / 0)

for transparency sake ~I represent Union print shops

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by: JonnyBBad @ Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 15:14:17 PM CDT

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Sharpley shunned. (0.00 / 0)

Whack-a-mole, anyone?

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by: Jack Mitchell @ Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 15:17:37 PM CDT

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you both are silly willies. (0.00 / 0)

"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."  Franklin D. Roosevelt    

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by: Kathy Sullivan 2 @ Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 15:44:10 PM CDT

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We! (0.00 / 0)

Whack-a-mole, anyone?

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by: Jack Mitchell @ Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 16:39:32 PM CDT

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Well... (0.00 / 0)

...I haven't slipped into this thread yet.  So I will:  Can't we all just get along?  Okay, I'll leave now (footsteps quietly fading, door opens, closes softly)

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by: Rep. Jim Splaine @ Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 16:45:04 PM CDT

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Wha? You don't like my French? I spell with a Belgium dialect. (0.00 / 0)

I thought Jon hung in there admirably.

Oh, your talking about Sat. Mums the word.

Whack-a-mole, anyone?

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by: Jack Mitchell @ Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 17:50:06 PM CDT

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