Post-Game: Obama 3, McCain... "Zero!"

even Fox News Disputes it (0.00 / 0)

Without deviation from the norm, 'progress' is not possible.
~Frank Zappa

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by: JonnyBBad @ Wed Oct 15, 2008 at 21:45:47 PM CDT

That was a great moment. eom (0.00 / 0)

Wonder if Sununu's fired now.

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by: Dean Barker @ Wed Oct 15, 2008 at 21:51:00 PM CDT

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I agree (0.00 / 0)

I totally agree Mr. Barker. McCain showed a lot of weakness. He was always attacking Obama. Obama being the better man returned to the issues each time. Another thing McCain did like in other debates was not answer the question. Now their campaign is scrambling after the news today that Virginia a red state most of the time is leaning toward Obama. Obama is the clear winner and today just proved it once again.
               ~Cassady~

~Cassady~

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by: Tim Cassady @ Wed Oct 15, 2008 at 21:54:15 PM CDT

Hillary in the spin room (4.00 / 1)

She looks great, very rested.  

Energy and persistence conquer all things.

Benjamin Franklin

I'm a strategist for the NH Coordinated Campaign

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by: Kathy Sullivan @ Wed Oct 15, 2008 at 21:56:55 PM CDT

No question about it, Barack did what he needed to do. (0.00 / 0)

and McCain did not.

But, we have to keep on keepin' on, there's many a slip betwixt cup and lip!

It's ain't over until (fill in your Berra-ism).

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
         -attributed to Albert Einstein

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by: GreyMike @ Wed Oct 15, 2008 at 21:58:51 PM CDT

What Barack needs to do from here. (0.00 / 0)

Don't stop until the election is over and make sure McCain is in the rear view mirror.


"I'm not smart enough to run the economy."

- John McCain (r) Arizona

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by: TJMCNH1 @ Wed Oct 15, 2008 at 22:04:34 PM CDT

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And not tied to the bumper. n/t (0.00 / 0)

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
         -attributed to Albert Einstein

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by: GreyMike @ Wed Oct 15, 2008 at 22:07:02 PM CDT

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CNN insta-poll: O-58, M-31 (0.00 / 0)

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by: elwood @ Wed Oct 15, 2008 at 22:06:18 PM CDT

Obama was composed (4.00 / 2)

The ticks of McCain's face were distracting on the CNN split screen. Obama was cool, listening intently. McCain looked like he was pleased with the snarky comeback that he had formulated or that he was earnestly trying to get Schieffer's attention. That made him look "unsettled."

Oh and on McCain's snark, the Indies in Ohio being tracked by CNN, they hated it!

We are the giant. Let's work hard for Obama, Lynch, Shaheen, Hodes, Shea-Porter and all Dems.
No Regrets.  

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by: Jack Mitchell @ Wed Oct 15, 2008 at 22:08:35 PM CDT

How the Debate was Won (4.00 / 3)

Obama said blah blah blah, McCain said blah blah blah, charter school teachers paling around with autistic terrorist plumbers blah blah blah

None of that mattered.

Okay, that's not quite true.  It did matter, and Obama did very well in it and McCain really didn't do squat, by any measure.

But that's still not what really mattered. What mattered was not what they said, but what they did while the other was speaking.

You want to know why women are ditching McCain like he's week-old fish heads?  Because virtually every one of them has tried to lay out her point of view in front of someone who looked and acted exactly like McCain did -- steaming and fuming with the same "you're an idiot, whatever nonsense you have to say won't make a damn bit of difference to what I think, and I'm pissed that I even have to sit here and pretend that I give a damn about it" look on their faces.  And those faces have belonged to shitty boyfriends and husbands.  With any luck, shitty ex-boyfriends and ex-husbands.

Barack listened to the guy he disagreed with.  He frequently nodded to grant that the other person had made a sound point.  From time to time, faced with something he found extremely objectionable, he did a glance-nod-eyebrow-raise thing -- without a trace of anger -- to Bob Schieffer to indicate that there was a point he would find it necessary to dispute.  Which of these two people would women in their right minds want to see across the kitchen table -- or in the White House?

Not that men aren't having much the same reaction, mind you; I just doubt that it's as strong and widespread. Since, you know, we tend not to pick up so much on other people's responses while we're doing them the favor of talking to them.

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by: Tim C. @ Thu Oct 16, 2008 at 02:19:54 AM CDT

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I wish the CNN lines supported my gender on this (0.00 / 0)

but they support your analysis instead.

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by: elwood @ Thu Oct 16, 2008 at 05:28:35 AM CDT

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Doris Kearns Goodwin on Charlie Rose: (0.00 / 0)

"Joe the Plumber overstayed his welcome"

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
         -attributed to Albert Einstein

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by: GreyMike @ Wed Oct 15, 2008 at 22:08:37 PM CDT

Joe the Plumber (4.00 / 2)

To the optimist the glass is half full, the pessimist it's half empty, to the engineer it's twice as big as it needs to be and to the plumber any liquid in the glass is potential income.

Without deviation from the norm, 'progress' is not possible.
~Frank Zappa

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by: JonnyBBad @ Thu Oct 16, 2008 at 06:07:32 AM CDT

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CBS declares Obama won handily (0.00 / 0)

similar margin 58 - 31

MSNBC gives it even higher at 82 -17

"I'm not smart enough to run the economy."

- John McCain (r) Arizona

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by: TJMCNH1 @ Wed Oct 15, 2008 at 22:10:35 PM CDT

McCain piqued too soon n/t (4.00 / 6)

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by: elwood @ Wed Oct 15, 2008 at 22:13:36 PM CDT

McCain vs. Reality. (4.00 / 1)

Reality wins:

   McCain's most out of touch statement of the evening for me was his claim that Sarah Palin, with her four month old child with Downs Syndrome, knows more about special needs than anyone else he knows.   My 12 year old daughter is autistic and I can tell you, at four months I knew next to nothing about the joys and heartbreak of raising a child with a disability.

   At four months these kids are much like typical babies --- sweet, full of hope, and we related to them the same way relate to every other child we know.  Ask parents of adults and teenagers with down syndrome or autism about what they know --- it is a different world.

Wonder if Sununu's fired now.

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by: Dean Barker @ Wed Oct 15, 2008 at 22:17:27 PM CDT

I couldn't say it better myself (0.00 / 0)

Thank you

"I'm not smart enough to run the economy."

- John McCain (r) Arizona

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by: TJMCNH1 @ Wed Oct 15, 2008 at 22:19:42 PM CDT

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The lead clip (0.00 / 0)

Fabulous. It's almost as if McCain was trying to convey a "Can you believe this guy?" contempt, but the truth showed through. He knows he will almost certainly lose.

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by: JimC @ Wed Oct 15, 2008 at 23:23:14 PM CDT

I hope Joe wasn't a Watergate plumber (4.00 / 1)

McCREEPy.

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by: JimC @ Wed Oct 15, 2008 at 23:35:38 PM CDT

Autism (4.00 / 1)

Downs Syndrome is not autism. The two conditions present very different challenges to the child and to the parent.

They only look alike from the perspective of a hack politician who is trying to use a child as a prop.

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by: elwood @ Thu Oct 16, 2008 at 05:48:38 AM CDT

Independents Go For Obama (0.00 / 0)

Without deviation from the norm, 'progress' is not possible.
~Frank Zappa

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by: JonnyBBad @ Thu Oct 16, 2008 at 06:10:35 AM CDT

McCainCare (0.00 / 0)

If you send a health care tax credit directly to the insurance company, that's not a tax credit.  That's a voucher.  So...No Patient Left Behind?

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Don't believe the pollsters--this part is just warm-up.  Game Day is November 4th, so get out and vote no matter what.

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by: Douglas E. Lindner @ Thu Oct 16, 2008 at 09:49:43 AM CDT

More like No Insurance Company Left Behind... n/t (4.00 / 1)

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
         -attributed to Albert Einstein

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by: GreyMike @ Thu Oct 16, 2008 at 11:03:10 AM CDT

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I intended an ironic reference to the failure of NCLB. (0.00 / 0)

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Don't believe the pollsters--this part is just warm-up.  Game Day is November 4th, so get out and vote no matter what.

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by: Douglas E. Lindner @ Thu Oct 16, 2008 at 18:34:26 PM CDT

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