The House passes 436 !!!

how long? (4.00 / 1)

how much time does governor lynch have to sign? by what day does the bill automatically become law if he does not veto nor sign it?

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by: daftdaoud @ Wed May 06, 2009 at 16:19:40 PM CDT

Five days, I believe. (4.00 / 1)

Only the left protects anyone's rights.

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by: RealNRH @ Wed May 06, 2009 at 16:20:18 PM CDT

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Not quite (4.00 / 2)

It doesn't necessarily get sent up to his office right away.  Which is not to say people shouldn't call or e mail, just that the clock may not be ticking yet.



"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."  Franklin D. Roosevelt    

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by: Kathy Sullivan 2 @ Wed May 06, 2009 at 16:26:46 PM CDT

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And whom do we call to start the clock ticking? (0.00 / 0)

Or is this a conference report that has to go back to the Senate?

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by: This Was The Moment @ Wed May 06, 2009 at 16:54:31 PM CDT

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Don't call anyone on the clock (4.00 / 2)

This is one of those mysterious workings that either the Speaker or the Senate President is responsible for, and they are best left to do whatever it is they do.



"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."  Franklin D. Roosevelt    

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by: Kathy Sullivan 2 @ Wed May 06, 2009 at 17:01:25 PM CDT

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Article 44 of the NH Constitution (4.00 / 3)

[Art.] 44. [Veto to Bills.]

Every bill which shall have passed both houses of the general court, shall, before it becomes a law, be presented to the governor, if he approves, he shall sign it, but if not, he shall return it, with his objections, to that house in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the objections at large on their journal, and proceed to reconsider it; if after such reconsideration, two-thirds of that house shall agree to pass the bill, it shall be sent, together with such objections, to the other house, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and, if approved by two-thirds of that house, it shall become a law.

But in all such cases the votes of both houses shall be determined by yeas and nays, and the names of persons, voting for or against the bill, shall be entered on the journal of each house respectively. If any bill shall not be returned by the governor within five days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the same shall be a law in like manner as if he had signed it unless the legislature, by their adjournment, prevent its return, in which case it shall not be a law.

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by: Andrew Sylvia @ Wed May 06, 2009 at 16:27:20 PM CDT

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The clock (4.00 / 3)

Every bill ... shall, before it becomes a law, be presented to the governor....

It is not when it is passed, it is when it is presented, that the clock starts.    



"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."  Franklin D. Roosevelt    

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by: Kathy Sullivan 2 @ Wed May 06, 2009 at 16:32:19 PM CDT

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RE: Enrolled Bills (0.00 / 0)

As the former Chairman of the legislative Administration committee in the House, the bill will go through the enrolled bill process after it is passed by both chambers. This ensures no typos or glaring errors. This process happens through the Sect. of State's office in NH. The SOS is a nice man, but his office can be a bit slow during this process.The Chairs of the Senate and House enrolled bills subcomm will then sign off on the enrolled bills report and then... once the bill is properly enrolled and presented to the Governor, the five days begins.

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by: mrollo @ Thu May 07, 2009 at 13:53:19 PM CDT

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When's that? (0.00 / 0)

At a guess, anyhow? Hit his desk sometime today, won't arrive until Monday morning, lucky if we have it by the Fourth of July? Or it too unpredictable to say?

Only the left protects anyone's rights.

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by: RealNRH @ Thu May 07, 2009 at 16:58:05 PM CDT

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A Guess... (0.00 / 0)

Tuesday at the earliest, could be a week or more.  BUT, he can make his determination anytime, so no time to waste to get E-Mails, FAXES, telephone calls, and letters and notes to hm.  Drop by tomorrow or Monday at his office at the State House -- leave a note with the receptionist.  Even if people have already done so, do so again.  He needs to hear from us -- he's hearing from hundreds of others.  

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by: Rep. Jim Splaine @ Thu May 07, 2009 at 20:57:29 PM CDT

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Get in touch immediately! (4.00 / 2)

Contact information for Governor Lynch (including a web form for sending email) is located at http://www.governor.nh.gov/contactus.htm

Only the left protects anyone's rights.

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by: RealNRH @ Wed May 06, 2009 at 16:19:57 PM CDT

Now it's New York's turn. Hopefully Rhode Island too n/t (4.00 / 3)

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by: NH Ex-pat @ Wed May 06, 2009 at 16:21:51 PM CDT

dude (4.00 / 1)

not a done deal yet (though i hope lynch does sign it or let it become law without signing it)

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by: daftdaoud @ Wed May 06, 2009 at 16:30:19 PM CDT

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Use all your well-learned politesse (4.00 / 4)

When addressing the Governor, please consider:
So if you meet me
Have some courtesy
Have some sympathy,  and some taste
Use all your well-learned politesse
Or I'll lay your soul to waste

Whack-a-mole, anyone?

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by: Jack Mitchell @ Wed May 06, 2009 at 16:33:54 PM CDT

Governor's comment after passage (4.00 / 3)

Lynch said that because the Senate was still making important changes to the proposed law in a separate bill yesterday, he cannot say what stance he'll take on the Legislature's finished product.

"These are much more than technical changes," he said of Senate action. They affect the bill's impact on religious organizations and distinctions between civil and religious marriages, he said.

http://www.unionleader.com/art...

So, onward and upward!

"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."  Franklin D. Roosevelt    

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by: Kathy Sullivan 2 @ Wed May 06, 2009 at 16:34:57 PM CDT

he said (0.00 / 0)

that yesterday? ... my fingers are crossed...

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by: daftdaoud @ Wed May 06, 2009 at 16:36:23 PM CDT

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no, today n/t (4.00 / 1)

"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."  Franklin D. Roosevelt    

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by: Kathy Sullivan 2 @ Wed May 06, 2009 at 16:42:36 PM CDT

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Thanks Kathy, that's very promising (4.00 / 5)

I still hope he surprises us, like last time, and signs it quickly. There is not going to be much difference in how it affects NH or the voting in 2010 if he were to sign it tomorrow as opposed to letting it sit on his desk -- but nationally that back to back ME & NH momentum would be hard to beat.

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by: Mike Caulfield @ Wed May 06, 2009 at 17:22:05 PM CDT

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sure sounds like rhetorical groundwork for... (4.00 / 2)

...his eventual signing of the bill.

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by: palerobber @ Wed May 06, 2009 at 17:45:35 PM CDT

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Rep. Roberts (4.00 / 5)

I was inspired by the Keene area's Representative and his reasons for voting to concur. He made a case for it being not what he considers right personally, but rather what is lawful and fair under the Constitution. All people are equal and afforded the same rights and protections. As a (former) Marine who's taken one for the team, he knows well the sacrifices made to defend those legal protections. I was pleased and surprised as many applauded his words.

The other thing I learned today by attending the session is how unsuited I would be for the job. One would need the patience of Job, or a Saint or whatever. Some real bad apples.

I got a chance to compliment Mo Baxley for all her efforts, here at BH and on FB to push for passage. How galling it must have been to hear members at the very last moments say,"We should not rush into this..."

One Senator who will remain nameless turned and said, 'are you kidding, we had about 9,000 hearings on this'.
To each their own, I guess.

for transparency sake ~I represent Union print shops

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by: JonnyBBad @ Wed May 06, 2009 at 16:42:31 PM CDT

Kris is solid! (4.00 / 1)

It was my priviledge to work with Kris during the formation of NH Veterans for Obama in the summer of 2007.

He is fearless.

Whack-a-mole, anyone?

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by: Jack Mitchell @ Wed May 06, 2009 at 16:55:27 PM CDT

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marriage equality (4.00 / 4)

I was watching CNN about five minutes ago and there was an ad urging people to call Gov. Lynch and remnind him of "his promise to veto" the gay marriage bill.

If you haven't already sent a note to the Gov. supporting marriage equality, please do it now.

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by: calvin @ Wed May 06, 2009 at 16:59:59 PM CDT

Can't (4.00 / 7)

Can't remind him to keep a promise he never made.



"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."  Franklin D. Roosevelt    

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by: Kathy Sullivan 2 @ Wed May 06, 2009 at 17:03:08 PM CDT

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Trying to box him in (4.00 / 2)

I saw Kevin Smith of CPR attempting to tie an anchor around Gov.Lynch's neck on WMUR. Won't work!

Call the Gov, be polite, state your view, say thank you.

Whack-a-mole, anyone?

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by: Jack Mitchell @ Wed May 06, 2009 at 17:10:53 PM CDT

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Non-existent promise for sure (4.00 / 1)

If this is the ad you saw, it almost makes the opposite point of what they're trying to say: they're proving that all they can come up with as evidence of the "promise" is a clip of Lynch saying, "Gay marriage is not currently permitted under New Hampshire law" from a few years ago.

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by: Vis Unita Fortior @ Wed May 06, 2009 at 19:43:41 PM CDT

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Surrounded ! (4.00 / 7)

Marriage equality in Canada, Vermont, Massachusetts, and Maine!

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by: elwood @ Wed May 06, 2009 at 17:04:06 PM CDT

Surrounded ! (4.00 / 5)

Marriage equality in Canada, Vermont, Massachusetts, and Maine!

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by: elwood @ Wed May 06, 2009 at 17:04:06 PM CDT

You pre-empted the title (4.00 / 5)

of my next diary!

Wonderful news.

And thanks to Gov. Baldacci for acting so swiftly, too, even if it miffs me a little to have Vacation Land beat Live Free or Die on this one.

birch, finch, beech

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by: Dean Barker @ Wed May 06, 2009 at 17:23:03 PM CDT

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Does he really want (4.00 / 2)

to veto the bill after Maine Gov. Baldacci made history today and signed their marriage equality bill into law??

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by: smith @ Wed May 06, 2009 at 17:27:31 PM CDT

Dear Governor Lynch (4.00 / 5)

I hereby promise to say only positive things about you from this point on if you just let the two hot button bills which passed the senate become law. You got it in writing.


No'm Sayn?

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by: BurtCohen @ Wed May 06, 2009 at 17:32:28 PM CDT

that may do it Burt :) n/t (4.00 / 2)

for transparency sake ~I represent Union print shops

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by: JonnyBBad @ Wed May 06, 2009 at 18:03:49 PM CDT

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Let's don't start this - (4.00 / 2)

If the supporters give the Governor a chance to say

"I'm letting this pass IF:
Burt does [a],
and Kathy does [b],
and Ray does [c],
and Jim does [d],
and elwood does [e]..."

I don't think we'll get off with just wearing chicken suits.

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by: elwood @ Wed May 06, 2009 at 18:03:58 PM CDT

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I don't know about that, Elwood ... (4.00 / 3)

... with you in one of these suits, how could we ever lose?

                         

 "We should pay attention to that man behind the curtain."

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by: Ed Tracey @ Wed May 06, 2009 at 19:08:11 PM CDT

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I'll vote for that!!! n/t (4.00 / 1)

"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."  Franklin D. Roosevelt    

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by: Kathy Sullivan 2 @ Wed May 06, 2009 at 19:52:16 PM CDT

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I vote for the chicken suits. (0.00 / 0)

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by: This Was The Moment @ Wed May 06, 2009 at 22:35:04 PM CDT

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LOL :) n/t (0.00 / 0)

"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."  Franklin D. Roosevelt    

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by: Kathy Sullivan 2 @ Wed May 06, 2009 at 19:51:02 PM CDT

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called and e-mailed (0.00 / 0)

When I called, it was odd. I had to dial the whole 1 603 271 2121 to get through, if I tried using just 2712121 I got a different switchboard and could not leave a message.
(Or maybe I just screwed up.)

Really hope Lynch signs this, rather just allowing it to become law without his signature.  

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by: shpilk @ Wed May 06, 2009 at 18:57:34 PM CDT

Hooray! (0.00 / 0)

and I missed it live, so I get to come back to this...virtual party?

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by: Mormo @ Wed May 06, 2009 at 19:46:46 PM CDT