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Rye: Marriage Haters Waste No Time

by: Dean Barker

Sat Jan 02, 2010 at 18:33:55 PM EST


A long-time reader emailed to let me know that a friend in Rye got a knock on the door today from someone "with a petition to put gay marriage on the ballot."

Since there isn't a way to put it on the state ballot, presumably this is either some town/local-based GOTV scheme for the GOP.

Anyone who sees or hears more about this, please let us know. If you get solicited, ask who is behind it.

(btw, it's the second of January already, and I'm still waiting for my marriage to be threatened by Teh Gays and their new rights.  This is SO not going down as advertised!)

Dean Barker :: Rye: Marriage Haters Waste No Time
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That Is Sad -- Keep Our Heads Up (0.00 / 0)
It's sad that there is hate out there, or fear.  It's hard to describe the feeling some have, since it seems so irrational.  To read some of the comments in newspapers that have carried recent stories from some people is disappointing, although I think the majority of comments have been supportive.

In the past five days from December 29th on, I've received 11 rather critical/insulting E-Mails, including 3 especially disgusting, plus one not-pleasant phone call.  God bless them.  But, it happens.  That's been par for the course for much of the past year.  The fact is, many people will benefit from what the New Hampshire Legislature and so many others did to get us here, and no one's marriage will be hurt.  

The cause goes on.  Let's keep our heads up.  Let's keep positive, and show our faces and tell our stories.  


People who are convinced that their personal identity (0.00 / 0)
and significance is determined and defined by their potential ability to reproduce and derive significance from their progeny feel threatened by people who, by their actions, declare the potential male reproductive effort to be insignificant.  For some people, the potential to reproduce is intimately connected to their personal sense of power, without which they are as nothing.

If reproduction is not important, what's left for the "normal" male to make him feel important--i.e. potent?  The gay marriage issue isn't about gays or marriage; it's about recognition and importance.  It's bad enough that women can reproduce and rear children without having to depend on males for support.  Now even some males are claiming self-importance, independent from their issue.

Ironic as it seems, the self-centered population, lacking in self-direction, is totally dependent on external direction and validation.  That is, people who are self-centered are actually lacking in self-esteem (self-estimation or awareness) and need to be valued or esteemed or hated by someone else to feel anything at all.  Indeed, it may well be an either/or situation--that not being valued as a mate registers as a rejection.  
Deprivators often aim to deprive others of goods they don't even want for themselves.  I think that impulse arises from a kind of envy that says "what I don't want, you shouldn't have, because your satisfaction deprives me of mine."  


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On a positive note ..... (4.00 / 2)
.... when Vermont instituted civil unions ten years ago, there was much public gnashing of teeth by town clerks, saying that they would not issue civil union licenses, that they'd have someone else in their office handle that.

 By contrast, I'm not hearing many town clerks (in either state) going public with such public statements these days. Maybe there are some; there just aren't the volume that seems to exist today.

 Seems like a lot has changed in ten years.

 "We should pay attention to that man behind the curtain."


Remember the (4.00 / 2)
"Take Back Vermont" signs and bumper stickers?

I saw one last summer still nailed to an old barn, fading away.


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this is tied to (4.00 / 4)
CACR 25, a proposed amendment to the NH Constitution, providing that the voters can veto laws by referendum.

This is of course all about:
A)Repealing marriage equality
B)Ensuring that buckets of out of state cash from religious hate groups funnel into GOP coffers.
C)Creating big circuses that benefit the GOP.

This proposed amendment is being brought to you by Reps: Boyce, Howard, Rodeschin, Elliot, Hickel, and by state Senator Jeb Bradley.


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h/t@Debby Butler-

A time to be silent and a time to speak. The anti-gay (anti-Catholic, anti-American, anti-Jewish, anti-everything) Westboro Baptist Church from Kansas will be protesting at Concord (NH) High School Monday morning 7:15 - 7:45 am. Please come and stand with those of us who support the high school's effort to support ALL their students. The time is now!

"Poetry is not an expression of the party line. It's that time of night, lying in bed, thinking what you really think, making the private world public, that's what the poet does." Allen Ginsberg


Turning Hate into fundraising (4.00 / 2)
The last time they were here in Vermont (at Montpelier's High School), some enterprising and equality-minded students put up a website/Facebook page soliciting pledges per minute of hate. The students raised a few thousand dollars that way, and donated it (IIRC) to GLAD.

Remember, they thrive on noise, publicity, reaction to their obnoxious signs and slogans. They make money by suing anyone who might have impinged on their free speech rights. They are like toddlers throwing tantrums to get attention. If you ignore them, they get bored and leave -- and the mayor and city council of Montpelier issued advice to the citizens to do just that.


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Thanks Nanuq (0.00 / 0)
Do you play mandolin?

"Poetry is not an expression of the party line. It's that time of night, lying in bed, thinking what you really think, making the private world public, that's what the poet does." Allen Ginsberg

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