Huntsman to drop out

Unelectable (2.50 / 2)

is what Huntsman said of Romney a week ago.  Now he is going to endorse him.  Who got to Huntsman? I suspect the hierarchy of the LDS Church.

Why are churches that play politics tax-exempt?

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by: mevansnh @ Mon Jan 16, 2012 at 12:10:15 PM UTC

Way Out of Line (0.00 / 0)

I disagree with Jon Huntsman on damn near every issue, but this Mormon conspiracy stuff is garbage. . . . . Used to hear that sort of thing when I was working for Dick Swett. Like, he had seven kids because he and other members of his church didn't believe in birth control. (Not true.) Wrong then, wrong now.

If you insinuated that a Catholic candidate bowed to papal influence, etc., you would have elicited a more pronounced response. But there is a certain tolerance towards criticism of Mormons, largely because most non-Mormons are influenced by images of polygamy, prosthelyzing, and the unfortunate history of certain long-ago church leaders on civil rights.

I am not Mormon, but am inclined to believe that Huntsman endorsed Romney because he thought he had the best chance to defeat the President, not because he was ordered by church elders. And I think that insinuations like yours undermine the legitimate arguments against Romney's candidacy -- namely, that he's a political prostitute who switched his positions on damn near every issue to catered to the darkest elements of the GOP's right wing.

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by: Dartmouth Dem @ Thu Jan 19, 2012 at 12:55:47 PM UTC

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Just a week ago (0.00 / 1)

Huntsman was saying truly nasty things about Romney, then suddenly quits the race and now Romney is the greatest.  The Mormon Church is unlike any other in this country whether you like it or not, and controls its members with an iron fist, not unlike the Taliban or radical Muslim groups.  I don't trust them and neither should anyone else.  I guess we'll just have to disagree on that one.  Perhaps reading some books on the Mormons might enlighten those who think they're just like everyone else.  They're not.

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by: mevansnh @ Thu Jan 19, 2012 at 23:08:37 PM UTC

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Troll Rating for Bigotry (0.00 / 0)

Taliban? Really? Who the hell are you, Rick Santorum?

I don't need to read books on Mormons -- I actually prefer knowing people rather than parroting bigoted stereotypes. In my past career in Democratic politics, I worked with Dick and many other pro-choice, pro-gay rights, pro-labor, pro-social justice Mormons who are proud of their faith but don't believe in the social policies of some of their leaders. They think for themselves, like millions of other people of every religion.

Your breed of out-and-out bigotry should not be welcome here or in any other progressive community.  

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by: Dartmouth Dem @ Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 02:20:46 AM UTC

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The bigots, in my opinion, (0.00 / 0)

are those who would prevent gay men from being scout leaders and young people who identify as gay from belonging to the organization, as well as those who contributed to denying marriage equality to the same group with Prop 8 in CA.  We know who they are.  I am sure there are some who do not agree with their leadership, but they are few and far between.

We don't know where the money for NOM comes from, but you can be sure some of it is coming from Utah, to deny equality here in NH.  

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by: mevansnh @ Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 13:32:40 PM UTC

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LDS Church Calls on Members to back Minnesota Anti-Equality Initiative (0.00 / 0)

LDS Church Calls on Members to back Minnesota Anti-Equality Initiative
Post by Joanna Brooks

Last Sunday, January 15, in LDS congregations across Minnesota, LDS Church leaders read a statement over the pulpit encouraging Church members to support a November 2012 ballot initiative that would amend the Minnesota state constitution to restrict the right to marry to heterosexual couples. (State law already bans same-sex marriage.)

Another example of current Mormon Bigotry.  

http://www.religiondispatches....

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by: mevansnh @ Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 14:23:24 PM UTC

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Yes, those people are bigots (0.00 / 0)

So are people who stereotype tens of millions of people into a single set of views, regardless of whether they hold them or not. Was Ted Kennedy also a bigot because the Catholic Church opposes gay marriage?

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by: Dartmouth Dem @ Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 16:48:09 PM UTC

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Paul and Santorum will hang in (4.00 / 3)

until Super Tuesday. Paul may stay in the whole way. They want to see what the drop outs will net them. But it's all over but the shouting and has been for some time.  Mitt is a lucky man to have faced and defeated this weak field. In fact, he is an emperor with no clothes!

 "The future is not something to be predicted, it's something to be achieved,"  unattributed aphorism

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by: susaninrindge @ Mon Jan 16, 2012 at 12:35:23 PM UTC

I suddenly was struck (4.00 / 1)

this morning with a memory of the first Dubya campaign while I was reading this diary on Daily Kos and thought that there is no way Romney could be the guy you want to have a beer with.  Can you imagine?  Shudder.  

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by: Lucy Edwards @ Mon Jan 16, 2012 at 12:45:01 PM UTC

Huntsman Looking to Sixteen (4.00 / 3)

Meanwhile Ron Paul is after different things, like a prominent role at the convention, which of course scares the crap out of the Republican establishment.

And on this MLK day, can't you imagine Willard telling the Reverend to keep that discussion to quiet rooms?  

No'm Sayn?

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by: BurtCohen @ Mon Jan 16, 2012 at 15:15:40 PM UTC

Huntsman just got "in line" (0.00 / 0)

(in more ways than one!)

 "The future is not something to be predicted, it's something to be achieved,"  unattributed aphorism

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by: susaninrindge @ Mon Jan 16, 2012 at 15:44:02 PM UTC

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What a disappointment (4.00 / 2)

Huntsman gets out of the race and rails against Obama's "divisive" use of class warfare. This guy's just another dam uber rich man from an uber rich family defending the right of the uber rich not to pay taxes. Not the class act he pretended to be.  

 "The future is not something to be predicted, it's something to be achieved,"  unattributed aphorism

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by: susaninrindge @ Mon Jan 16, 2012 at 16:24:41 PM UTC

Here comes that psychic nausea again! (4.00 / 1)

 "The future is not something to be predicted, it's something to be achieved,"  unattributed aphorism

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by: susaninrindge @ Mon Jan 16, 2012 at 16:26:29 PM UTC

The physic for your psyche will come in the phall. n/t (0.00 / 0)

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by: The Money Magician @ Mon Jan 16, 2012 at 18:05:02 PM UTC

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Don't know if I can (0.00 / 0)

suffer all that comes in between the psychic pain and the physic...  I might need a psycho-logist....

 "The future is not something to be predicted, it's something to be achieved,"  unattributed aphorism

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by: susaninrindge @ Mon Jan 16, 2012 at 18:27:39 PM UTC

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Maybe he's afraid someone will make a movie (0.00 / 0)

"When John Huntsman Came to Town"

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by: DianeR @ Mon Jan 16, 2012 at 19:17:10 PM UTC