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Andy Smith on Carol Shea-Porter's Win

by: Dean Barker

Fri Nov 07, 2008 at 22:32:36 PM EST


Andy Smith, director of the Survey Center at the University of New Hampshire, said it's important to remember the premise that most people don't know who their Congress person is and tend to vote along party lines.

...Coming from a grassroots campaign in the 2006 election, Shea-Porter had finally gained name recognition, something Smith said is very important when it comes to re-election bids.

"Once they have name recognition it's very easy for them to win," he said.

Smith also said Shea-Porter's attempt at a second term made her vulnerable, in that the possibility of someone new challenging her was a concern. Fortunately for her that someone was Bradley and voters already knew what to expect.

 Here's my summary:
1) Most voters didn't know Carol Shea-Porter's name.
2) Most voters vote for the Democrat if they are a Democrat, a Republican if Republican.
3) Forget #1: Carol Shea-Porter's name is now known.
4) It's very easy to win if voters know your name.
5) Because Jeb ran before, voters know his name too.
6) Forget #4: That we know Jeb's name too makes it harder for him to win.
Seriously, there's no snark intended here.  Help me understand what Andy Smith means, because for the life of me I can't figure it out.

My own take: Carol Shea-Porter won because a majority of first district voters share her values as she expressed them by her votes, because she is very attentive to her constituents, and because she is fearless about having a dialogue with anyone, no matter their political stripe or agenda.  Because despite not taking special interest PAC money, she raised more than any other Congressperson in New Hampshire history, and in small-dollar donations.

And she won by a significant margin, despite a perpetually hostile and partisan statewide newspaper that has attacked her for the entirety of her political life, an opponent who reveled in mudslinging and falsehoods, an NRCC totally demoralized about the national picture and therefore extra-focused on getting bragging rights for a few token races they thought they could win, a corrosive and incorrect "fluke" narrative about her first victory by pundits from Andy Smith to Jennifer Donahue, and a political base not located in her district's largest voter-rich city of Manchester.

You know what? I'm seriously starting to think that Carol is the strongest Democrat in the state of New Hampshire, because she has had so many forces working against her for two cycles now, and she has conquered them all without losing a shred of her integrity. And while I suspect she doesn't want it, I see no reason when taking a cold hard look at the conditions of her races realtive to our other fantastic Dems in the state why she isn't at the top of everyone's short list to ascend Mt. Gregg.

Dean Barker :: Andy Smith on Carol Shea-Porter's Win
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with Smith's premise:

Andy Smith, director of the Survey Center at the University of New Hampshire, said it's important to remember the premise that most people don't know who their Congress person is and tend to vote along party lines.

I don't believe that most people don't know who their Congressperson is. It's virtually impossible not to know, with so much media focus on the Congressional races every 2 years.

as an occasionally clever person wrote this week:

In 2006, Shea-Porter beat Jeb Bradley, and that was explained away as voters hating Bush and being angry about the war. Two years later, she stomped Bradley again, and now it's being explained away as riding the Obama wave. The same old tired pundits don't take a moment to think that perhaps we voters like our Congresswoman, and we approve of the job she's doing for us. Even though she's been elected (quite handily) to a second term, the punditocracy of NH is still dismissing her as a "fluke." Jeb Bradley's two terms were not written off that way. He wasn't described as "riding the Bush wave."

Most of the NH political analysts are stuck firmly in the past, waiting for it to return.  

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Pundits live by the word. They have to believe that (0.00 / 0)
their words are more valuable than deeds.  Otherwise, if they didn't believe that the world can be moved by their pronouncements, how could they justify making a living by spouting off?

So, the myths they weave are self-serving.


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If that's the case - I should be rich! n/t (0.00 / 0)


member of the professional left  

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Well, yeah, IF she isn't picked for a higher office before then. (0.00 / 0)
But, to answer your question about Andy Smith: he's an idiot.

On the other hand, Carol didn't "win."  The citizens of New Hampshire made an informed decision that they'd been well served by their Congresswoman and decided to retain her.

You see, a lot of confusion can be cleared up when you are clear about who's actually doing what.  The mythical perspective that citizens are easy to manipulate with funny ads and exhortations is really demeaning.  It's also misleading.


The Obama wave (4.00 / 2)
Another discrepancy here of interest -- CSP is riding the Obama wave? Really -- by which we mean a wave based on the personality of Obama?

Well, that's odd. Because the story I heard all election was that it was surprising that Obama was not doing better given how high the generic Dem party favorabilities were.

And I actually agree with that. I am very happy we have Obama is here, but I think the story is not an Obama wave, but a Democratic wave that was so strong it propelled our first Black president into the White House in a landslide. A man whose middle name is Hussein.

This was not a coattails election, ala Clinton or Reagan. This looks, feels, and smells like an realignment from the bottom up.  

And to say that wave exists is to admit the obvious -- wave voters voted CSP in for the values she held.



It's a dirty job... (4.00 / 2)
but SOMEBODY has to read Andy Smith's polls. He doesn't:

Next, I'd like to get your overall opinion of some people in the news. As I read each name, please say if you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of this person - or if you have never heard of him or her.

Congresswoman Carol Shea-Porter: Favorable 35%, Unfavorable 32%, Neutral 9%, Don't Know 24%

That's from July 2008.

But Andy claims, "Most people don't know who their Congressman is."  


Facts are stupid things. eom (0.00 / 0)


birch, finch, beech

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Andy has never been able to wrap his head around CSP's success (4.00 / 2)
Remember, this is the guy who in 2006 refused to include her name in his initial polling because she wasn't a "serious" contender like Jim Craig or (and I am not making this up) Gary Dodds.


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