Reliable Democrats

What kind of Democrat I am (0.00 / 0)

varies depending on whether or not we are in the midst of a general election.

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by: This Was The Moment @ Wed Apr 01, 2009 at 17:36:13 PM CDT

What The Hell Is a "Parlor Pink Democrat"? (0.00 / 0)

The LGBT Courtesan Caucus?  

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by: Andrew Sylvia @ Wed Apr 01, 2009 at 19:23:25 PM CDT

Suburban Communists n/t (0.00 / 0)

for transparency sake ~I represent Union print shops

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by: JonnyBBad @ Wed Apr 01, 2009 at 19:50:38 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Gotcha, I Was Never In The Minivan Gulag n/t (4.00 / 1)

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by: Andrew Sylvia @ Wed Apr 01, 2009 at 20:04:07 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

This isn't really true. (2.00 / 2)

Those among us of the most passionate persuasions tend to be very liberal

The suggestion that we would have One Big Happy Family if it weren't for those liberal troublemakers is worse than nonsense. It's blaming the victim.

The ruptures in the past six months have come from the centrist-to-conservative Democratic establishment - from the Lynch endorsement of Republican Odell to Dartmouth Dem's unprovoked attack on Howard Dean to this latest campaign material using right-wing talking points in the special Senate election.

And now liberals are supposed to apologize?

No thanks.

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by: elwood @ Wed Apr 01, 2009 at 19:39:56 PM CDT

crepe (0.00 / 0)

really....Dartmouth Dem and I speak every night about this stuff and we have started a cabal with Lynch. Are you a victim? If so of whom, and why did you take this sooo personally? Frankly I think it ludicrous to assail the Governor for not demonizing an opponent with whom he shares values. Since the first day he ran he's talked of true bi-partisanship which he practices. He believes that there are some good Republicans. So sue him. On the backs of this whackadoodle theory he's become the most popular Governor in these United States of America. You may not like it, but he's far from a hypocrite, and neither he nor I think you are a victim nor should you apologize. Deal with it. Live through it. Fix it.

for transparency sake ~I represent Union print shops

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by: JonnyBBad @ Wed Apr 01, 2009 at 20:25:27 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

This is deliberatrely misrepresenting (0.00 / 0)

what I said, and history.

Nobody demanded Lynch "demonize" Odell.

Goodbye. Have fun in your new role.

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by: elwood @ Wed Apr 01, 2009 at 20:29:13 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Lynch on the House Budget (0.00 / 0)

Did you see the governor react to the very decent and fair House budget?
He is committed to very deep cuts which would cause real pain to NH citizens. A dependable Democratic state budget? You decide.

No'm Sayn?

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by: BurtCohen @ Fri Apr 03, 2009 at 08:14:16 AM CDT

[ Parent ]

"would cause real pain to NH citizens" (4.00 / 2)

NH citizen's are already in real pain, but maybe it hasn't hit you yet.

Here's a note from the NH Employment Security Website.

Due to the high number of initial and reopened claims being received, the amount of time it is taking to process claims each week is taking longer. We are doing our best to keep pace with the number of claims coming in. If you attempt to file your weekly claim and the system is unable to process it, please try again later.

Effective Friday, January 9, 2009, the time frame to file a timely continued claim for unemployment compensation for the previous week or 2 weeks is 28 calendar days.

Do you know what its like to be without for a month ? Where would these people seek relief ? Real work is being done every day to try and alleviate the growing needs of the disenfranchised. Have talked to nayone in need, and offered help, or do you live to critize only?

Maybe you've never stepped in to run a failing operation. First you have to stem the blood. If the patient lives, then all progress remains possible. Lynch has taken sick companies over, and turned them around with the highest regard for the greatest number of people who worked there.
They didn't have to be perfect employees, or know themselves how to effect the change that was critical their survival, but he did demand that everyone contribute, and try to work together as a team. It worked marvelously. I trust that his skills at crisis management 'government style' will work, and later be seen to be prudent and correct. Everyone is sharing in the pain, all depts, across the board. Essential services are being preserved. What's your plan?

for transparency sake ~I represent Union print shops

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by: JonnyBBad @ Fri Apr 03, 2009 at 08:30:40 AM CDT

[ Parent ]

The House Plan! (0.00 / 0)

No'm Sayn?

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by: BurtCohen @ Fri Apr 03, 2009 at 10:14:13 AM CDT

[ Parent ]

We have tri-partite government Burt (4.00 / 1)

It's legal too. Don't be a schlamiel

for transparency sake ~I represent Union print shops

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by: JonnyBBad @ Fri Apr 03, 2009 at 10:21:54 AM CDT

[ Parent ]

4'd for the Yiddish (0.00 / 0)

Or perhaps the Pynchon reference.

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by: JimC @ Fri Apr 03, 2009 at 10:31:17 AM CDT

[ Parent ]

Burt (4.00 / 4)

Since you are promoting the House Plan, could you share with us your detailed knowledge of the plan? You must have a clear understanding of the specifics of the plan for you to champion it so heartily. Please educate the readers of BH.

2012 starts today.

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by: Ray Buckley @ Fri Apr 03, 2009 at 17:56:37 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Oh, give me a f*cking break (4.00 / 1)

* I am under no circumstances a "centrist-to-conservative" Democrat, nor have I ever been one.  I spent nearly five years working for a proud congressional liberal on human rights issues, and have knocked on doors for NH progressives from Arnie to Paul Hodes.  Have given them money, too.  And I resent the slur.

* I criticized Howard Dean for signing on to work for Halliburton and Bechtel's chief lobbyist in Washington.  This disturbs me -- I worked on Capitol Hill for several years, and I know how these firms pervert our government.  And, hey, guess what?  President Obama agrees with me.

So shove it up your ass, elwood.  That was uncalled for.

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by: Dartmouth Dem @ Wed Apr 01, 2009 at 22:44:36 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

One more thing. . . (0.00 / 0)

Here's the Dean diary you referenced:

http://www.bluehampshire.com/s...

Find me a single "centrist-to-conservative" comment in there, and I'll mainline Drano.

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by: Dartmouth Dem @ Wed Apr 01, 2009 at 22:51:55 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

"Centrist to conservative" is not a slur (0.00 / 0)

It wasn't intended as one, and it wasn't one.

I consider Lynch, Shaheen, and Katrina Swett centrists in the spectrum of NH Democratic politics. When Swett also bothered to endorse Joe Lieberman - before he endorsed McCain - I shifted her over to 'conservative' within my view of the Democratic spectrum.

Your bizarre fascination with Howard Dean may have nothing to do with that spectrum.

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by: elwood @ Thu Apr 02, 2009 at 05:14:12 AM CDT

[ Parent ]

It was woefully inaccurate (0.00 / 0)

Kind of like calling John Lynch and Jeanne Shaheen "Republican Governors" -- as Burt Cohen has done on other threads.

I have posted two diaries on Howard Dean in my time on this blog:  one praising him for his commitment to universal health care coverage and the other criticizing him for taking money from a right-wing lobbying firm that represents corporate criminals.  That's no "bizarre fascination" -- it's simply your outrage that someone would dare criticize Howard Dean for a crappy and hypocritical decision.

Deal with it, and don't call me something that I'm clearly not.  

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by: Dartmouth Dem @ Thu Apr 02, 2009 at 05:51:01 AM CDT

[ Parent ]

You have posted many negative COMMENTS on Dean (4.00 / 1)

And the fact that you don't like my reaction to your posts doesn't mean that I am not "dealing with" them.

I also notice that the centrist-conservatives here - including you - portray any criticism they or their candidates receive as "outrage", even when they are the ones who are overreacting. It's part of your attempt to minimize the left as crazies.

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by: elwood @ Thu Apr 02, 2009 at 05:57:46 AM CDT

[ Parent ]

I have posted many positive comments on Dean, too (4.00 / 1)

You choose to ignore those.  And if "dealing with it" involves calling me something that I am avowedly not, then you are not doing so.

Since you're a big fan of my comments, I invite you to go through them, looking for those on the following issues:

* Universal health care coverage
* Human rights policy
* Embryonic stem cell research
* Alternative energy
* Iraq
* Clean government/lobbying reform
* Gun control

And many others. . . . And find me one that does not clearly define me as a supporter of liberal policy positions.  Go for it -- and do so, next time, before sticking your bullshit labels on me.

I have expressed disgust at many of Susan and Burt's remarks, but they have nothing to do with their self-identification on the left -- rather, that their repeated, vociferous, divisive and generally unjustified attacks on Democratic leaders (notably Jeanne Shaheen) are (a) wholly unwarranted, and (b) counterproductive.  Those merit a strong response.

I base this on a long history of working for divided Democratic parties -- ones that make the perfect the enemy of the good -- who get their asses kicked by Republicans.  (Elwood, I remember Arnie '92/'96, Dick '94/'96, and Jeanne '02.)  And I am far more scared of this happening again than I am about getting labeled by you.

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by: Dartmouth Dem @ Thu Apr 02, 2009 at 06:22:43 AM CDT

[ Parent ]

"Avowedly" (0.00 / 0)

We can agree on that.

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by: elwood @ Thu Apr 02, 2009 at 20:18:36 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Whatever (0.00 / 0)

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by: Dartmouth Dem @ Thu Apr 02, 2009 at 21:13:13 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

There You Go Again (0.00 / 0)

In a way I respect Dartmouth Dem's reliable doggedly determined devotion to the centrist party line. But When DD labels specific values-based justifiable criticisms of "Democratic leaders (notably Jeanne Shaheen) are (a) wholly unwarranted, and (b) counterproductive," that, my friends, is counterproductive.

After years of being out of power, struggling for our issues, Democrats are in power now. It would be abdicating our responsibility for us to not now use that power to advance traditional core Democratic values.

Attempts to squash that clearly productive and essential discussion would be unacceptable. Kind of a Republican style, if you think about it.

No'm Sayn?

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by: BurtCohen @ Fri Apr 03, 2009 at 08:24:45 AM CDT

[ Parent ]

In Response (4.00 / 2)

* You're a big man when it comes to calling fellow Democrats "Republicans".  But if I'm in the same category as Jeanne Shaheen in John Lynch -- who have done far more to implement progressive values in this state that you ever will -- then I can handle that.

* I'd also put the same challenge to you that I posed to Elwood above:  Go through my comments and find me a single one that does not place me as a firm -- and proud -- supporter of liberal policy positions.  You won't.

* The reason "Democrats are in power now" in New Hampshire is precisely because of the responsible leadership of elected officials like Jeanne Shaheen and John Lynch, who broke decades of Republican voting patterns by showing that Democrats can govern in a responsible, open-minded, and efficient manner.  They sold Democratic values to the Granite State, and paved the way for the gains to follow.

* This is not about "liberal" vs. "Republican".  It's a debate over tactics.  I (and Kathy, Raymond, and many others) feel that progressive values are advanced when good candidates get elected -- and provide health care to people in need, protect the environment, and expand civil rights in the most tangible way possible (by signing bills into laws).  You believe that progressive values are advanced when you sit back and bitch about them.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, Burt.

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by: Dartmouth Dem @ Fri Apr 03, 2009 at 09:39:52 AM CDT

[ Parent ]

Wasn't there a movie called Clueless? (0.00 / 0)

When you say I am "sitting back and bitching about them (progressive values)" it's amusing. You really do have no idea of all the things I am doing on a whole host of issues. That's okay.
There are places for both show horses and work horses! As you know, one doesn't need to be an office holder to make a difference.

Now that very rude profane thing you said to elwood certainly de-legitimizes your arguments in general.

Look, centrism is centrism. that's perfectly OK. Democrats include folks like the DLC, and it is a good productive discussion between them and the base of the party.  


No'm Sayn?

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by: BurtCohen @ Fri Apr 03, 2009 at 10:26:39 AM CDT

[ Parent ]

Hey Work Horse (4.00 / 4)

When you provide health care to tens of thousands of children, like Jeanne Shaheen did, let me know.

I think that you're a Republican.  After all, you are as responsible as anyone for Judd Gregg's reelection in 2004.  By leaving the party stranded the day before the filing deadline, you basically guaranteed another six years of that right-wing extremist (Granny D's noble efforts aside).

Don't be offended -- being a Republican is OK.  We liberals and you Republicans can have good productive discussions, can't we?

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by: Dartmouth Dem @ Fri Apr 03, 2009 at 10:40:48 AM CDT

[ Parent ]

Let's Not Go Overboard (0.00 / 0)

DD -- Burt Cohen has done great things for the NH Democratic Party.  And Burt -- so has John Lynch, so let's not make him the issue.  That 2004 happened as it did is unfortunate, but we need not do any Burt Bashing.  He tried. In his State Senate years he was fantastic.

I think his point, and I agree, is that we should not lower our expectations about what Democrats have "traditionally" stood for in recent years.  We shouldn't.  And no one should feel offended that Burt or any of us say so.  

We have good leaders in our party.  But to question what our Democratic leaders are doing is what Democrats do well.  Let's hope no one is intimidated into not raising those questions.

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by: Rep. Jim Splaine @ Sat Apr 04, 2009 at 12:47:02 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

My Point (0.00 / 0)

Obviously, Burt is not a Republican.  

Burt likes to call people names.  Well, Jim, I am every bit the Democat he is, and every bit the liberal.  Much of my adult life has been spent working for progressive policies and progressive candidates -- and, multiplied a hundred times over, the same applies to Jeanne, John, Kathy, Raymond, and others whom Burt casually disparages as "Republican" or "centrist".  

No one is "lowering our expectations" for our party.  We all want the most progressive society that can possibly be imagined, one led by structures that embody the ideals that Hubert Humphrey laid out decades ago:  "The moral test of Government is how that Government treats those who are in the dawn of life, the children; those who are in the twilight of life, the elderly; and those who are in the shadows of life, the sick, the needy and the handicapped."  We only disagree on how to get there, and whether our values are served by turning our backs on any Democratic elected official who dares disagree with a single one of our ideals.

If Burt wants to engage in a reasoned debate about what we can -- and should -- be accomplishing, then he will have my full support.  (As you do.)  But if he choose to ignore that debate and, instead, type "Jeanne Shaheen is a Republican" and other garbage, then he should be prepared for others to explain why he is dead wrong.  

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by: Dartmouth Dem @ Sat Apr 04, 2009 at 13:26:00 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

I Agree The Name-Calling Should Cease... (4.00 / 1)

...and Burt, there's no reason to do so.  Jeanne Shaheen IS a good Democrat.  So is John Lynch.  Let's hope the party we toiled in during the 1980s and 1990s when it was extra-tough to be a Democrat allows for a wide diversity of viewpoint.  If we want to create a Liberal Democrats Party, let's do that -- but I for one would prefer The Democratic Party.

Ray sometimes drives me closer to my grave, and I sometimes drive him to a cliff -- but there is room for each of us.  Jeanne and I disagreed about the death penalty and she almost brought me to tears in 2000 with her veto of the bill, but I voted for her in 2002 and 2008 -- and was happy to do so.  

Let's stop "classifying" Democrats -- that gets us absolutely nowhere.  But also let's not be insulted or upset when Democrats disagree and remind "Democrats to be Democrats," which has much varied meaning.  

The "I'm Okay You're Okay" philosophy of the 1960s can apply to Democrats now.  

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by: Rep. Jim Splaine @ Sat Apr 04, 2009 at 13:38:15 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

2000-2009 (0.00 / 0)

I'm okay, you suck !

for transparency sake ~I represent Union print shops

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by: JonnyBBad @ Sat Apr 04, 2009 at 13:58:35 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Well Said, Jim (0.00 / 0)

Sentiments like that only remind us why you are so well respected by so many people.

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by: Dartmouth Dem @ Sat Apr 04, 2009 at 13:55:37 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

well, thanks for this (4.00 / 1)

JBB. I thought you'd been kidnapped by aliens. At least now I understand your newfound position on the bandwagon, pom poms a-waving.

You missed a category in your poll:

Former  

sanctimonious purist/professional lefty

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by: susanthe @ Wed Apr 01, 2009 at 19:52:38 PM CDT

http://www.golfknickers.com/knickers.html n/t (0.00 / 0)

for transparency sake ~I represent Union print shops

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by: JonnyBBad @ Wed Apr 01, 2009 at 20:11:27 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

right (0.00 / 0)

not for any candidate but for the Party.
that's me on the left
let's kick it


for transparency sake ~I represent Union print shops

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by: JonnyBBad @ Wed Apr 01, 2009 at 20:15:46 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

wow.. (4.00 / 1)

this is a great parody of my day...  : )

2012 starts today.

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by: Ray Buckley @ Wed Apr 01, 2009 at 20:44:06 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Dean we can't edit polls...why not ? n/t (0.00 / 0)

for transparency sake ~I represent Union print shops

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by: JonnyBBad @ Wed Apr 01, 2009 at 20:42:17 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Also: (4.00 / 1)

Melodramatic

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by: This Was The Moment @ Wed Apr 01, 2009 at 20:46:08 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

and (4.00 / 1)

Sycophantic  

sanctimonious purist/professional lefty

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by: susanthe @ Wed Apr 01, 2009 at 20:55:07 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Nobody is always right, and nobody is always wrong. (0.00 / 0)

"The Establishment" is no different.

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by: This Was The Moment @ Wed Apr 01, 2009 at 21:14:18 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

On Nov. 4th, staffer plainly states (0.00 / 0)

"Now. We are the establishment."

Whack-a-mole, anyone?

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by: Jack Mitchell @ Wed Apr 01, 2009 at 22:23:24 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

But...but... (4.00 / 1)

Whom will our musicians lament?

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by: This Was The Moment @ Wed Apr 01, 2009 at 22:30:08 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

I was right with you until (4.00 / 4)

I saw the poll, and I froze in place, unable to make a choice. Too bad you couldn't do a multidimensional poll, and include some of Andrew's "axes" (not the grinding type, you know, the axis type, um, but not the "of evil" type - well, you get my drift). I could easily check off a third of the radio buttons in that list without any trouble.

When I got into this (before I could vote), I fancied myself somewhere slightly to the left of Che Guevara (or maybe Charles Mingus), but I seem to have moved all the way to just this side of the aforementioned Sen. Edwards, whom I supported when it seemed reasonable to do so.

Now I am really a fairly pragmatic sort of Dem who can even carry on a civilized discussion with Republican friends and some politicians (but no eyes for Comity Central), and can be encouraged by small gains toward the ends that benefit the greatest number of people caught in the squeeze.

Health care, education, equal rights; those are the things I care about. I think that makes me a reliable (but not blind faith) Democrat.

Really good thoughts in this diary, Jon.

Republicans believe government is bad - then they get into office and prove it.

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by: GreyMike @ Wed Apr 01, 2009 at 19:56:09 PM CDT

"Comity Central" (4.00 / 2)

1000 4s for you.

That's perfect.

If Lakoff and what's his face over on the R side had a supergenius love child who started framing at age 3, it still couldn't come up with that.

Comity Central - genius!  Plus, unless you take especial care to unvoice the T (so it doesn't sound like a D), which is not an American English thing to do, it becomes indistinguishable from "Comedy Central".

birch, finch, beech

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by: Dean Barker @ Wed Apr 01, 2009 at 20:23:42 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

That was the idea, (0.00 / 0)

thanks for noticing.

Republicans believe government is bad - then they get into office and prove it.

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by: GreyMike @ Wed Apr 01, 2009 at 20:26:50 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Dying's easy - (4.00 / 4)

comity's hard.

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by: elwood @ Wed Apr 01, 2009 at 20:38:39 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Strange (0.00 / 0)

I agree with almost every word in this diary, and yet I'm not sure I get it.

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by: JimC @ Wed Apr 01, 2009 at 20:20:23 PM CDT

wait till it wears off n/t (4.00 / 1)

for transparency sake ~I represent Union print shops

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by: JonnyBBad @ Wed Apr 01, 2009 at 20:26:22 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Excellent (4.00 / 1)

You put into words some vague thoughts that has been floating around my head.

Kumbaya, dude - or, as they say, party on.



"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."  Franklin D. Roosevelt    

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by: Kathy Sullivan 2 @ Wed Apr 01, 2009 at 20:44:45 PM CDT

Other poll choices (4.00 / 1)

Reagan

Tax and spend

Dixiecrat

Clinton

Goddamn

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by: JimC @ Wed Apr 01, 2009 at 20:52:17 PM CDT

You forgot... (4.00 / 3)

Grumpy Democrat



"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."  Franklin D. Roosevelt    

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by: Kathy Sullivan 2 @ Wed Apr 01, 2009 at 21:11:50 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Quit your foul language, Jim! Children could be reading this! (4.00 / 1)

Honestly, what you write behind closed doors is one thing, but to write "Reagan" on a public website...

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by: This Was The Moment @ Thu Apr 02, 2009 at 17:16:04 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Can I Change My Vote To Goddamn? n/t (4.00 / 2)

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by: Andrew Sylvia @ Fri Apr 03, 2009 at 18:04:56 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

How about: (4.00 / 3)

New Hampshire Democrat

2012 starts today.

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by: Ray Buckley @ Fri Apr 03, 2009 at 18:10:07 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Goddamn yes ! n/t (4.00 / 1)

for transparency sake ~I represent Union print shops

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by: JonnyBBad @ Fri Apr 03, 2009 at 20:49:48 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Thanks Ray (4.00 / 1)

Need a bumper sticker: "Proud To Be A Goddamn New Hampshire Democrat"

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by: Andrew Sylvia @ Sat Apr 04, 2009 at 11:33:22 AM CDT

[ Parent ]

Or (4.00 / 3)

"Proud to be a NH Democrat, Goddamnit!"

2012 starts today.

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by: Ray Buckley @ Sat Apr 04, 2009 at 11:41:53 AM CDT

[ Parent ]

As long as I can have "Democrat" and some kind of positive mild obscenity in there, i'm ok. n/t (4.00 / 1)

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by: Andrew Sylvia @ Sat Apr 04, 2009 at 12:03:31 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Party Loyalty (4.00 / 2)

In all fairness this is a difficult time to lead and it is of course much tougher to be part of the solution then to arm chair quarterback things from the background.  That said, leadership also must include taking a stand on things and not always taking the safest political route.  Otherwise, why even have political parties?

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by: EricKTolbert @ Thu Apr 02, 2009 at 10:24:27 AM CDT

we need parties (4.00 / 2)

We need a 'sustainable' political model through which we can seek consensus on a broad range of issues...
Your basic idea is that there is leadership,  and that implies followership, no ? Part of the thought, such as it was, that went into the diary is that discipline and loyalty are the bricks and mortar of our political edifices. None of us like the picture of the 'machine' as typified by The Mayor in Chicago, because it allowed Roland Burros to work his way up to the Senate, simply as a result of playing the game. I don't think he brings anything other than a calculating caution in building vote totals in the wards and backrooms of his city. Starting out as a mavericky type he quickly learned that pay to play was the way. I don't think anyone here is implying that we are that type of monolithic party or machine. And while free expression in party politics sounds nice, message discipline and gotv takes serious and concerted organization, practice, and skill. We've had a lot here, and the overwhelming presence of the NH Obama campaign in the general showed just how much we can do when we all pull together.

Every idea irrepressibly breeds its opposite and the two merge into a synthesis which in turn produces its own contradiction. It is the "Hegelian Dialect" of thesis, antithesis and synthesis.  It will be called: "reaching consensus".

for transparency sake ~I represent Union print shops

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by: JonnyBBad @ Thu Apr 02, 2009 at 10:51:18 AM CDT

[ Parent ]

Are you saying? (0.00 / 0)

SYFPH and PUSH!

Skip the garnish, please.

Whack-a-mole, anyone?

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by: Jack Mitchell @ Thu Apr 02, 2009 at 10:56:11 AM CDT

[ Parent ]

I'd like to buy a vowel (0.00 / 0)

SYFPH?

America was not built on fear. America was built on courage, on imagination and an unbeatable determination to do the job at hand. -Harry Truman

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by: Peter Sullivan @ Thu Apr 02, 2009 at 15:41:17 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

ends in ' pie-hole' Peter n/t (4.00 / 2)

for transparency sake ~I represent Union print shops

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by: JonnyBBad @ Thu Apr 02, 2009 at 15:50:17 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

I'm stuck on PUSH (0.00 / 0)

Put up some Hodes?

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by: JimC @ Thu Apr 02, 2009 at 16:15:10 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

No. (0.00 / 0)

Just push, as in lean into it.The CAPS were for emphasis.

Whack-a-mole, anyone?

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by: Jack Mitchell @ Thu Apr 02, 2009 at 16:37:28 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

AH (0.00 / 0)

GOT IT.

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by: JimC @ Thu Apr 02, 2009 at 16:45:28 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

damn (4.00 / 1)

I was sure you were talkin' Reverend Jackson and his People United to Save Humanity, or P.U.S.H.
http://www.rainbowpush.org/
Keep hope alive !
Keep hope alive !
You ARE somebody !

for transparency sake ~I represent Union print shops

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by: JonnyBBad @ Thu Apr 02, 2009 at 17:55:39 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

It is a big tent (0.00 / 0)

We are not going to all agree all of the time and maybe we need to remember to rejoice in our majority. In regards to our elected leaders, it is obviously a delicate balance at times between the neccesity of the safe political play and acting according to the need at the time.  I do think however there are those times where leadership requires action that may not be the most politically safe, ie recession.

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by: EricKTolbert @ Thu Apr 02, 2009 at 12:13:26 PM CDT

Dyin' ain't much of a livin' boy (4.00 / 1)

God was away on business. My favorite low carbon footprint version of Gran Torino...after saving some pilgrims from Comancheros, The Outlaw Wales is challenged by a Bounty Hunter.

"That's bad luck, the silver running out."  

for transparency sake ~I represent Union print shops

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by: JonnyBBad @ Fri Apr 03, 2009 at 07:57:40 AM CDT

Reliable Democrats, reliable people (4.00 / 2)

People who won't get carried away.

At the end; 6:20 or so.

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by: JimC @ Fri Apr 03, 2009 at 10:44:57 AM CDT

I never trust undertakers n/t (4.00 / 2)

for transparency sake ~I represent Union print shops

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by: JonnyBBad @ Fri Apr 03, 2009 at 11:08:34 AM CDT

[ Parent ]

I'm a bad bad boy, in your town alone... (0.00 / 0)

I apologize to anyone who was offended by this screed.It was not a long thought out exposition, but rather as Kathy implied above, 'I got head full of ideas that are driving me insane', and needed a way to vent. Enjoy this tribute to Jimmy Reed and come by 900 Degrees tomorrow night between 5-8pm for some of the bestest baddest blues around...:)

One of my favorites, though I could not find an original, here's tribute to the great Jimmy Reed

I'm A Bad Boy

I got my mojo workin' but it just don't woik on you !

"Keys to the Highway"

And when the moon, comes over the mountain, honey
I'll be on my way.....

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Recorded November 1958
Otis Spann- piano
Muddy Waters, Luther Tucker- guitars
Willie Dixon- bass
George Hunter- drums
originally released as Checker single 904

song credited to McKinley Morganfield (Muddy Waters) but I believe it was written by Big Bill Broonzy

Marion Walter Jacobs with his harmonica.
MARION WALTER JACOBS aka 'Little Walter'

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by: JonnyBBad @ Sat Apr 04, 2009 at 08:54:08 AM CDT

Poll Results: What kind of Democrat are you ? (0.00 / 0)

* Reliable - 6 votes (27.27%)
* Left leaning - 5 votes (22.73%)
* Progressive - 5 votes (22.73%)
* Flaky - 2 votes (9.09%)
* Moderate - 1 votes (4.55%)
* New - 1 votes (4.55%)
* Pro Choice - 1 votes (4.55%)
* Pro Life - 1 votes (4.55%)

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by: JonnyBBad @ Sat Apr 04, 2009 at 19:56:30 PM CDT