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Sununu: "Stop Complaining about Health Care"

by: Dean Barker

Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 10:10:38 AM EST


No, I'm not making that up. Well-off Senator John Sununu, recipient of one of the finest health care plans in the country, actually had the nerve to say that.

Sununu said business leaders would be better off putting their energy elsewhere. For starters, "if there was something that we could do about it that were quick or easy, it would be done," he said, predicting only marginal policy changes. "There is no solution" anytime soon, he said.

Get used to it, filthy rabble.  There's no solution.  I'm the one in charge of writing the laws, but I'm not going to bother.  Try not to get sick.

If there's a glimmer of hope, it will come from open markets, said Sununu, who broke with the White House in 2003 to vote against the Medicare prescription drug bill because it restricted price competition.

Health care "is so darn expensive," he said, "because it's worth it."

Ahh, yes, the problem is really that the markets just aren't open enough. That's why so many millions go without.  Too many regulations from big government.  And too bad for the small businesses going under due to skyrocketing costs.

What a jerk. The campaign against Sununu begins today.

Dean Barker :: Sununu: "Stop Complaining about Health Care"
Extended Text Update:

Just so we're all clear here, here's what Johnny's laissez-faire free market ideology has gotten us so far.  From the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities:

Data released today by the Census Bureau show that the number of uninsured Americans stood at a record 46.6 million in 2005, with 15.9 percent of Americans lacking health coverage.  "The number of uninsured Americans reached an all-time high in 2005," said Robert Greenstein, executive director of the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities.  "It is sobering that 5.4 million more people lacked health insurance in 2005 than in the recession year of 2001, primarily because of the erosion of employer-based insurance."

Census data show that 46.6 million Americans were uninsured in 2005, an increase of 1.3 million from the number of uninsured in 2004 (45.3 million).  The percentage who are uninsured rose from 15.6 percent in 2004 to 15.9 percent in 2005.  The number of children who are uninsured rose from 7.9 million in 2004 to 8.3 million in 2005.

"The increase of 360,000 in the number of uninsured children is particularly troublesome," Greenstein said. "Since 1998, the percentage of uninsured children has been dropping steadily, from a high of 15.4 percent to 10.8 percent in 2004.  The new Census data show that the uninsured rate among children moved in the wrong direction in 2005, rising to 11.2 percent."

Greenstein warned that matters could get worse.  In fiscal year 2007, which begins October 1, children's health insurance programs in 17 states face federal funding shortfalls totaling an estimated $800 million, equal to the cost of covering more than 500,000 low-income children.  Congress has known about the shortfall since early February, when the Administration took note of it and proposed a measure to address it, but Congress has so far failed to act.

Yet they rushed back to Congress to play doctor with Terri Schiavo.

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Symptom of a Larger Problem (4.00 / 1)
The reason John Sunnunu has gotten away with having such outlandish views about healthcare is because there are some people who actually believe it!

We in America have a big problem with evaluation of our own faults.  Imagine an American saying "Wouldn't it be nice if our healthcare system was as good as the one in France?"  We really could learn a lot from our European and Canadian friends in the way of Healthcare.

The very idea of thinking about healthcare the context of the free market sickens me: 

Can one put a monetary value on a life? 
How can we possibly say that your very life or death depends on how much money you've made?
If parents can't afford healthcare do their children deserve do die?

How anyone can call themselves 'Pro Life' with a straight face and NOT support universal healthcare is beyond me.


Yeah. I can understand a free market radical (4.00 / 2)
like Sununu not giving a damn about the welfare of the people, but what I really don't understand is how he can sit by and watch America's hegemony waltz out the door.

Think of how many big ideas and new inventions get lost due to our collective fear of losing our health care.  You can't start up that new company to promote your amazing innovation when you can't afford to buy insurance, or pay your workers, so you stay stuck in a job that doesn't fulfill your potential.  So much for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

In essence, our health care system makes us less free and actually impedes the spirit of ingenuity that is supposed to make this nation the leader of the world.


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I Think he would Agree with you (4.00 / 1)
You can't start up that new company to promote your amazing innovation when you can't afford to buy insurance, or pay your workers, so you stay stuck in a job that doesn't fulfill your potential.  So much for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

But Sunnunu's solution would be to destroy the health care system and take away the minimum wage, to help businesses.


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Similar thougts from some time ago on dkos (4.00 / 2)
I remember commenting in a similar manner on this dkos thread.

This was my comment to another who mentioned he would start up is own architect firm if he could. Apparently I was in a revolution mood.


I've been thinking for about a year now that Health insurance is like golden handcuffs for corporations. It keeps a majority of us tied to jobs we may not like or feel good about doing. Its the only explanation I have for corporations not fighting tooth and nail to not have to pay for health insurance... in the long run they know they will have to pay more in recruiting and retention. The benefits of having a majority of us tied to our producer/workerbee role out-weighs the cost of the health care to our employers.

Imagine the good, both economic and social that would come if we were all freed from the handcuffs of heath insurance provided by our employers. A thousand flowers would bloom.

I'm in a similar situation today, I'd love to start a consulting biz to help non-profits/NGO's/Advocacy Groups leverage the tools we are all so familiar with to help archive their mission. With three young ones at home it is a risky proposition. Stay tuned...

Hope > Fear



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Pro life (4.00 / 1)
"How anyone can call themselves 'Pro Life' with a straight face and NOT support universal healthcare is beyond me. "

Pro life means life is sacred from the moment of conception until the moment of birth.

...the Doo Dah Man once told me you've got to play your hand. Sometimes the cards ain't worth a dime if you don't lay 'em down.


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Don't Forget! (0.00 / 0)
Pro life is ALSO ideal for keeping you alive hooked up to a feeding tube for decades with no hope of recovery while draining millions of dollars out of your family's pockets!

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Pro life redux (0.00 / 0)
Your point is taken and I hereby amend my comment to:
Pro life means life is sacred before the "soul" enters the body and after it has left. In between those events all bets are off.

...the Doo Dah Man once told me you've got to play your hand. Sometimes the cards ain't worth a dime if you don't lay 'em down.

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"Health care is so darn expensive.... (4.00 / 1)
...because it's worth it."

This from a supposed free market evangelist.

Free markets don't price goods and services according to their "worth." They price them according to the costs of providing the goods or service, times a multiple of the ratio of supply and demand.

Water is "worth" a lot: life depends on it. But it's cheap.


Worth more than anywhere else? (0.00 / 0)
Ditto on Elwood's point re: water.  Is American health care really worth so much more than European health care, which is of course free?  (It's not really free, though, it's taxed, and the net result is probably a wash.)

Except it isn't, because they have universal health, so even people excluded from the workforce aren't excluded from the health care system (the same is true here, for the indigent, but one undercounted factor here is prior restraint, namely uninsured people simply not treating things that they should).


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There's a weird point behind Sununu's comment (4.00 / 1)
But he's got it wired backwards.

Actually, if he wanted to be a supply and demand guy, there's only one side he can address. The demand side is in medicine is broken, because unlike buying a sofa, the user is not going to make rational balanced choices about life or death. If there's a tenth of a percent chance that the most advanced MRI will increase my chances of survival by a third of a percent chance, that I want that MRI regardless of price.

So there's a very real pressure in medical care to build wildly expensive equipment that is frankly NOT "worth it", when compared to say building primary care clinics, or preventing outbreaks of disease, or giving flu shots.



[ Parent ]
I've been pushing the notion that Dems... (4.00 / 1)
...are Pragmatic while Republicans are Dogmatic. The Democratic Party will take a look at the likely results of a policy or program; the GOP will consult a Book of Ideology.

I submit to you: John Sununu, case in point.

(BTW: last week Dante Scala opined that, if the Dems can convince people of this, we'll be in power for a Very Long Time in both the state and the nation.)


Couldnt' have said it better myself, Elwood (4.00 / 1)
The Republicans are the party of ideology, the Democratics are the party of pragmatism. I've felt this was true for quite awhile, now.

[ Parent ]
check out opensecrets.org (4.00 / 3)
The answer is plain to see: http://www.opensecre...

Insurance is the second largest corporate donor to Sununu.

NH Kucinich Campaign


I think we have the beginnings (0.00 / 0)
of a two-year project: matching the public statements of Johnny to the interests of his donors.

This is a particularly egregious example.

I note with displeasure upon digging a little deeper in open secrets that Sununu ranked 11th out of the entire House and Senate on insurance contributions from the 2002 cycle.


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It took me a while to find that (0.00 / 0)
My first take was, "He's not even in the top 20: the insurance industry is just giving EVERYONE lots of cash."

Then I realized, he wasn't in a campaign this year.

The Connecticut politicians make sense, with the dominance of the industry in their state. But New Hampshire? A few relatively small companies...


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