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Obama & McCain: Round Two Debate LiveBlog

by: Dean Barker

Tue Oct 07, 2008 at 20:57:43 PM EDT


Here we go.

Live stream available from Hulu here.

I'm trying hard to write something witty here, but I'm so disgusted with the reckless and dishonorable campaign McCain has waged, I got nothing (but contempt).

Show that you are better and more presidential than that small, small man, Barack.

Dean Barker :: Obama & McCain: Round Two Debate LiveBlog
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Obama Wins! (0.00 / 0)
Like my Bill Richardson impersonation?

We are the giant. Let's work hard for Obama, Lynch, Shaheen, Hodes, Shea-Porter and all Dems.
No Regrets.  


You need the beard for that. (0.00 / 0)


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[ Parent ]
and here we go (0.00 / 0)
round 2

Obama/Biden '08

ha (0.00 / 0)
Grumpy looked him in the eye and slapped his arm as he shook his hand.  

Netroots Outreach Director for the Carol Shea-Porter campaign

Will the question suck? (0.00 / 0)
Will McCain look at Obama?
Will Brokaw shill for McCain?

not a fan of the format (4.00 / 2)


Obama/Biden '08

tie breaker (4.00 / 1)
Not a fan of the striped tie



Paula M. DiNardo

Dover NH



[ Parent ]
Senator Obama, it's good to (4.00 / 5)
be here with you at a Town Hall Meeting"

Snide little a$$hole.


One my friends. (0.00 / 0)


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two my friends (0.00 / 0)


Netroots Outreach Director for the Carol Shea-Porter campaign

I'm flying n/t (0.00 / 0)


Without deviation from the norm, 'progress' is not possible.
~Frank Zappa


[ Parent ]
is anyone else watching cnn with the undecided voters at the bottom of the screen (0.00 / 0)


Obama/Biden '08

The rating DROPS whenever (0.00 / 0)
Brokaw speaks

[ Parent ]
auto-recalibration ? n/t (4.00 / 2)


Without deviation from the norm, 'progress' is not possible.
~Frank Zappa


[ Parent ]
Phil Gramm for Sec. Treasury!!! (4.00 / 2)
Say it!

Wonder if Sununu's fired now.

Who would be McCain's Secretary of State (0.00 / 0)
I shudder at the thought!

"I'm not smart enough to run the economy."

- John McCain (r) Arizona


[ Parent ]
Not you, Tom (0.00 / 0)
for SecTreas.

(You can get me back at our next barbecue, Tom).

Brokaw giggled.


If I were John McCain, (4.00 / 1)
I wouldn't have brought up that Warren Buffett supports Obama.

Glad he did, though.

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"I suspended my campaign" (4.00 / 1)
Repeating that disproved line over and over is very mavericky of him.

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The suspends is killing me n/t (0.00 / 0)


[ Parent ]
Obama oughta mention (0.00 / 0)
Rick Davis right about now.

what a lying POS

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you probably have never heard of him -mccain (4.00 / 3)
condescending much?

Obama/Biden '08

THOSE PEOPLE (4.00 / 1)
can't afford to buy houses, you know.  

Netroots Outreach Director for the Carol Shea-Porter campaign

[ Parent ]
Suspended his Campaign? (0.00 / 0)
Obama Made Loans?

Oh my...

Hope > Fear


I'll bet you never heard (4.00 / 2)
of Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac before this!

Gee, John, not everyone pays cash for his eight houses.


Where's the Sugar Mama (0.00 / 0)
Who needs a loan when your wife owns the regional Bud Distributorship.

Speaking of Cindy is she passing notes to McSame yet?

"I'm not smart enough to run the economy."

- John McCain (r) Arizona


[ Parent ]
btw (4.00 / 2)
he said Frannie and Freddie twice

Without deviation from the norm, 'progress' is not possible.
~Frank Zappa


[ Parent ]
McCain's breathing is creepy. (0.00 / 0)
And his misleading statement that Fannie and Freddie are out there selling loans is annoying.

Wonder if Sununu's fired now.

McCain wants to buy just the bad loans? Not a stake in the lenders? (4.00 / 1)
Socialize the risk, hands off the profit.

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Get Out The Vote, Spread The Word, and Tell All Your Friends!


Brokaw: Senator Obama, (0.00 / 0)
are you saying that America sucks? Yes or no.

Wonder if Sununu's fired now.

Senators, (4.00 / 3)
I'd like to take a moment to give each of you an opportunity to severely damage the market by telling investors it's going to get "a lot worse", which would be a self-fulfilling prophesy if a leading Presidential candidate said it.

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Get Out The Vote, Spread The Word, and Tell All Your Friends!


[ Parent ]
Senator McCain, (4.00 / 2)
Obama is not actually on your lawn. You could tell if you actually looked at him.

The system in Washington (4.00 / 3)
is broken, and even though I helped break it, I'm a reformer.  

Netroots Outreach Director for the Carol Shea-Porter campaign

Like the Mob's protection racket. (0.00 / 0)
I broke up your store.  Pay me and it won't happen again.  Heads I win, tails you lose.

[ Parent ]
McCain's in marketing (0.00 / 0)
He's prioritized everything, from one to 1.

Is McCain admitting he wants to privatize SS here? (0.00 / 0)


Wonder if Sununu's fired now.

not quite (0.00 / 0)
but just like Palin, McGrump is going to make everything about energy.  

Netroots Outreach Director for the Carol Shea-Porter campaign

[ Parent ]
privitize SS (0.00 / 0)
yeah and explain that  those who would  played the Stock Market lost 33% of their avg value since July.


"I'm not smart enough to run the economy."

- John McCain (r) Arizona


[ Parent ]
New Rule: (0.00 / 0)
It doesn't count as reaching across the aisle when the Senator you're working with endorses you for President.

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Get Out The Vote, Spread The Word, and Tell All Your Friends!


Jimmy Carter asked Americans to sacrifice n/t (0.00 / 0)


Put on an extra sweater! (4.00 / 2)
And while you're at it, check your tire pressure!

Waking up on November 5th with no regrets.

[ Parent ]
did I hear this right (4.00 / 1)
did McCain say,
"...some of the 700 Billion ends up with terrorist organizations." ???
That's # 4.

Without deviation from the norm, 'progress' is not possible.
~Frank Zappa


earmarks earmarks earmarks (0.00 / 0)
and energy energy energy

Grumpy's record is stuck.  

Netroots Outreach Director for the Carol Shea-Porter campaign


How many times will McSame (0.00 / 0)
mention "overhead projector"?

2,3,7?

Wonder if Sununu's fired now.


the 3 rd largest city in U.S.A. (0.00 / 0)
can't have a first class palnetarium...?

Without deviation from the norm, 'progress' is not possible.
~Frank Zappa


[ Parent ]
..a first class Palinetarium... (4.00 / 2)
The perfect place from which to watch a space shot.

[ Parent ]
so far (0.00 / 0)
he's said it half as many times as he's said "my friends'

Netroots Outreach Director for the Carol Shea-Porter campaign

[ Parent ]
I'm wondering what an expensive overhead projector (0.00 / 0)
in a planetarium really is. Johnny Mac may not know.

[ Parent ]
Since it is science (4.00 / 1)
it's not so important.

Hope > Fear

[ Parent ]
"We can attack healthcare and energy! (0.00 / 0)
We're not rifle shots! We're Americans!"

What?

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Get Out The Vote, Spread The Word, and Tell All Your Friends!


Oh, attacking health care (4.00 / 1)
that's not one of the "sacrifices" McCain wants us to make with budget freezes in everything except Defense and Veteran's Affairs?

[ Parent ]
What part of "attack" don't you understand? n/t (0.00 / 0)


[ Parent ]
Obama's answer on sacrifice (4.00 / 1)
is the one I heard him give in person to a small round-table discussion in Jesse's in Hanover over a year ago.

Neato!

Wonder if Sununu's fired now.


McCain multitasker (4.00 / 1)
He can't campaign and help the congress with the bailout at the same time,  but he's can tackle heath care, and everything else at the same time?

Hope > Fear

Senator Obama's secret!!!!! (0.00 / 0)
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH

Tell, us, Johnny!!!!

Wonder if Sununu's fired now.


Brokaw: you can't respond to the lies of McCain, Obama, (0.00 / 0)
but please answer this misleading BS question on SS funding.


Wonder if Sununu's fired now.

given that Brokaw (4.00 / 2)
has been the NBC liason to the McShame campaign, it's highly inappropriate that he's moderating, imho.

Obama should just answer the questions he wants to - isn't that how Sarah Palin does it?

Netroots Outreach Director for the Carol Shea-Porter campaign


[ Parent ]
Obama's doing it anyways (0.00 / 0)
maneuvering entitlements question toward revenue to fund entitlements to tax policy.

[ Parent ]
Hate McCain's (0.00 / 0)
Pandering whisper

This thing is over...  

Hope > Fear


No, Tom, "everyone" does NOT agree (4.00 / 2)
that Social Security is a time-bomb.

Your corporate sponsors are selling that.


3 (4.00 / 1)
another My Friends.  
and anotehr, that's four.


Paula M. DiNardo

Dover NH



[ Parent ]
actually (0.00 / 0)
by my count from the beginning, it's 7

Netroots Outreach Director for the Carol Shea-Porter campaign

[ Parent ]
fore n/t (0.00 / 0)


Without deviation from the norm, 'progress' is not possible.
~Frank Zappa


[ Parent ]
St. Ronnie Reagan! (0.00 / 0)
Supply side economics didn't work for him either.

Notice he blabbered so much he "forgot" to give his plan on fixing Social Security.  

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McCain's whisper (0.00 / 0)
To St. Ronnie to bail him out like he did Keating.  oops  should I have said Keating?

"I'm not smart enough to run the economy."

- John McCain (r) Arizona


[ Parent ]
McCain: (4.00 / 2)
"I'm not too popular with my own party sometimes..."

I guess he looks at the polls...


Again with the "Sacred Table" (0.00 / 0)


Hope > Fear

A commission! (4.00 / 1)
"Everyone knows the answer - and we need a commission to find it"

Brokaw won't let Obama set the record straight. (0.00 / 0)
Classy.

Wonder if Sununu's fired now.

Wonders if Brokaw is getting paid by the GOP? (0.00 / 0)
Hmmmmm

"I'm not smart enough to run the economy."

- John McCain (r) Arizona


[ Parent ]
We are, right now, paying for the failures of Reagan and his disciples on so many issues. (0.00 / 0)
When can we move beyond the myth that Reagan was so great?

And let us not forget who made the world's greatest creditor nation into the world's greatest debtor nation within his Presidency, in this, a year in which the debt of the American people and their government adds up to a number very close to gross world product--that is, America owes all the money in the world.

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or something like that (0.00 / 0)
way to  restate your opponents arguments.

It's time for Democrats to STOP pandering to the disaster of nuclear power.  

Netroots Outreach Director for the Carol Shea-Porter campaign


Biggest Gaffe so far (4.00 / 1)
McCain says "Obama want's to make it safe or something like that"

Hope > Fear

THAT ONE? (4.00 / 2)
WTF?

Netroots Outreach Director for the Carol Shea-Porter campaign

[ Parent ]
Dont you know its an Apollo Project (0.00 / 0)


Hope > Fear

"That one" (4.00 / 2)
That's how the slimy little bastard refers to the Democratic nominee.

"that one." (4.00 / 1)
But not THE MAVERICK.


Wonder if Sununu's fired now.

All sorts of goodies like the bailout bill (0.00 / 0)


Hope > Fear

Brokaw providing a laugh track for his pal's (4.00 / 1)
weak "jokes"

So Obama doesn't get to answer the Manhattan Project question? (0.00 / 0)
WTF is wrong w/ Brokaw?

He's making up the rules as he goes along to favor McCain.

Wonder if Sununu's fired now.


On CNN, they have the response graph (0.00 / 0)
When McCain jabs at Obama, his rating goes down to net neutral.

When Obama jabs at McCain, the trend holds steady along its moving average, for the most part.

Seems folks aren't receptive to McCain's tired, politics as usual.

(h/t JonnyBBad)

We are the giant. Let's work hard for Obama, Lynch, Shaheen, Hodes, Shea-Porter and all Dems.
No Regrets.  


Also note (4.00 / 2)
Any mention of NuQuLer energy trends negative from the moving average.

We are the giant. Let's work hard for Obama, Lynch, Shaheen, Hodes, Shea-Porter and all Dems.
No Regrets.  


[ Parent ]
merci (0.00 / 0)
Democrats should move away from the idea that nuclear power is ANY kind of a solution.  

Netroots Outreach Director for the Carol Shea-Porter campaign

[ Parent ]
Bonnie and Jackson n/t (4.00 / 2)


Without deviation from the norm, 'progress' is not possible.
~Frank Zappa


[ Parent ]
Great concert! (0.00 / 0)
(Favorite version of Mocking Bird, EVER!!!)

Waking up on November 5th with no regrets.

[ Parent ]
beat his health care plan (0.00 / 0)
like a drum, Obama.  

Netroots Outreach Director for the Carol Shea-Porter campaign

I'm not usually the kind of person who spends the debate lamenting the moderator, (0.00 / 0)
But it seems the most noticeable thing that's going on in this debate is that Brokaw cuts off the exchange in order to get to his next question.  It's not a joint interview.  Let them argue.

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Get Out The Vote, Spread The Word, and Tell All Your Friends!


Fundamental differences between McCain and Obama. (0.00 / 0)
Obama talks about gov't in respect to health care.

McCain for his whole life has had his health care paid by gov't.

Wonder if Sununu's fired now.


All he talks about is keeping the Government out of Healhcare (0.00 / 0)
Doesn't McCain Realize that cause the government  doesn't regulate healthcare that we all these many people including myself without coverage.

:O)

"I'm not smart enough to run the economy."

- John McCain (r) Arizona


[ Parent ]
How long to mccain get to talk? (4.00 / 1)
Where the dodd talk meter

Hope > Fear

How long to mccain get to talk? (0.00 / 0)
Where the dodd talk meter

Hope > Fear

"Of course every small business (4.00 / 1)
wants to provide health care!"

No, John, in the real world, most small businesses hope that their employees get coverage thorough their spouses.


and pay them to do it. (0.00 / 0)


Hope > Fear

[ Parent ]
THANK YOU (4.00 / 3)
for mentioning SCHIP!

Wonder if Sununu's fired now.

way to bring home (0.00 / 0)
deregulation.

Brokaw is an ass.  

Netroots Outreach Director for the Carol Shea-Porter campaign


Every time Brokaw laughs at one of McCain's (4.00 / 2)
crappy joke-jabs at Obama, he helps him.

Wonder if Sununu's fired now.

co-dependent (0.00 / 0)


Hope > Fear

[ Parent ]
Disagree (0.00 / 0)
It just calls attention to the fact that no one else is laughing at them.

[ Parent ]
Obama just kicked ass (4.00 / 1)
attacking McCain on allowing insurance policy forum shopping. Seriously a bad idea which indicates McCain doesn't understand federalism or just plainly hates states' rights.

McCain: "America is the greatest force for good (4.00 / 3)
in the history of the world."

Sorry, Jesus.

Wonder if Sununu's fired now.


Debate format gets an F (4.00 / 6)


Hope > Fear

way to rub McShame's face (4.00 / 3)
in Iraq.  

Netroots Outreach Director for the Carol Shea-Porter campaign

Obama (4.00 / 1)
much stronger than in last debate.  

Netroots Outreach Director for the Carol Shea-Porter campaign

agreed (4.00 / 1)
Much more presidential, less defensive, than McCane.  Cool and calm.  McC just looks aged to me.



Paula M. DiNardo

Dover NH



[ Parent ]
a friend (4.00 / 1)
is watching in a bar in Olympia, Washington. When McCain said we've been to every corner of the earth, on of the bar wags said, "and bombed 'em all."  

Netroots Outreach Director for the Carol Shea-Porter campaign

and shot down or crashed in a few others (0.00 / 0)
had to say it.

"I'm not smart enough to run the economy."

- John McCain (r) Arizona


[ Parent ]
Make up your mind, flip-flopper. (4.00 / 1)
Is Reagan or TR your hero?

Wonder if Sununu's fired now.

Nilya here. (4.00 / 5)
Also something to add.
If TR is his apparant hero, how come a teenager can automatically spot his flop when he said 'talk softly'.
The quote is 'Speak softly, but carry a big stick'. Maybe it's just me, but if TR is his hero, McCain would get one of his more famous and well-known quotes right.

We are the giant. Let's work hard for Obama, Lynch, Shaheen, Hodes, Shea-Porter and all Dems.
No Regrets.  


[ Parent ]
you're absolutely right (0.00 / 0)
Nilya. TR isn't his hero.  

Netroots Outreach Director for the Carol Shea-Porter campaign

[ Parent ]
you're absolutely right (0.00 / 0)
Nilya. TR isn't his hero.  

Netroots Outreach Director for the Carol Shea-Porter campaign

[ Parent ]
You rock Nilya! (0.00 / 0)
Turn 18, quick!

Waking up on November 5th with no regrets.

[ Parent ]
Teddy Roosevelt wouldn't vote for McCain. (0.00 / 0)
Teddy Roosevelt wouldn't be a Republican if he were alive today, just as he wasn't by 1912.

Teddy Roosevelt V has endorsed Senator Obama.

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Get Out The Vote, Spread The Word, and Tell All Your Friends!


[ Parent ]
so far (0.00 / 0)
the "my friends" count is at 15.  

Netroots Outreach Director for the Carol Shea-Porter campaign

its gotta be higher than that (0.00 / 0)


Hope > Fear

[ Parent ]
CNN meter (0.00 / 0)
I've been watching CNN, and the undecided meter has looked favorable to Obama, and the analysts, with the exception of King, have been scoring it for Obama (and King has it as a tie)  

Energy and persistence conquer all things.

Benjamin Franklin

I'm a strategist for the NH Coordinated Campaign


McBush just got PWNED! (4.00 / 2)
He couldn't resist walking into Obama's speech.

And he paid the price.

For his reckless speech.

Oh, the irony.

Wonder if Sununu's fired now.


why? (4.00 / 5)
If McCain knows how to get Bin Laden, shouldn't he tell Petraeus? Or Bush? Or someone?

Energy and persistence conquer all things.

Benjamin Franklin

I'm a strategist for the NH Coordinated Campaign


shhhhh my friends...its a secret... (0.00 / 0)


Without deviation from the norm, 'progress' is not possible.
~Frank Zappa


[ Parent ]
See, we're just seeing Bruce Wayne (0.00 / 0)
"John McCain" will get Osama while in his secret identity.

[ Parent ]
He threw me there (4.00 / 1)
I thought "I know how to get bin Laden" was him mocking Obama. When it turned out he was talking about himself, I was genuinely puzzled.

[ Parent ]
corporate raiders in Pakistan (0.00 / 0)
Pakistan may go Bankrupt...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/fin...

Without deviation from the norm, 'progress' is not possible.
~Frank Zappa


John McCain will get Osama (4.00 / 1)
He knows exactly how to.

He hasn't helped the military do that yet.

What does that make him?


he's not telling (0.00 / 0)
until Obama agrees to more town hall meetings.  

Netroots Outreach Director for the Carol Shea-Porter campaign

[ Parent ]
Why wont McCain go after BinLaden? (0.00 / 0)
If he happens to be in Pakistan?

There must be deeper stuff there because I think Obama should put him on the spot about it.

Hope > Fear


Maybe.... (4.00 / 1)
Obama thinks that we are all home saying the same thing - if McCain knows how to get Bin Laden, then he should tell George W. Bush.  

Energy and persistence conquer all things.

Benjamin Franklin

I'm a strategist for the NH Coordinated Campaign


[ Parent ]
he's no Miss Congenialty I've heard n/t (4.00 / 3)


Without deviation from the norm, 'progress' is not possible.
~Frank Zappa


[ Parent ]
More like myth congeniality. n/t (4.00 / 1)


[ Parent ]
Another tailor-made question (0.00 / 0)
for John McCain from the McCain/Brokaw ticket.

And McCain's bad jokes about Putin are already repeating themselves.

Wonder if Sununu's fired now.


Again with the KGB (4.00 / 2)
Right over the head of any voter younger than 40

Hope > Fear

or anyone who flunked world history (0.00 / 0)


"I'm not smart enough to run the economy."

- John McCain (r) Arizona


[ Parent ]
should McCain (0.00 / 0)
talk about Depends?

sorry, that was mean.


Netroots Outreach Director for the Carol Shea-Porter campaign


LOL (0.00 / 0)


Waking up on November 5th with no regrets.

[ Parent ]
should McCain (0.00 / 0)
talk about Depends?

sorry, that was mean.


Netroots Outreach Director for the Carol Shea-Porter campaign


something meaner (0.00 / 0)
Viagra

"I'm not smart enough to run the economy."

- John McCain (r) Arizona


[ Parent ]
ha (0.00 / 0)
you're right!

Netroots Outreach Director for the Carol Shea-Porter campaign

[ Parent ]
careful they may all be (0.00 / 0)
In-depends

Without deviation from the norm, 'progress' is not possible.
~Frank Zappa


[ Parent ]
This will only need a Yes or No (0.00 / 0)
Both candidates show that Brokaw is a senile fool.

Maybe Maverick (0.00 / 0)


Hope > Fear

Can we get in any more questions tailor made (4.00 / 2)
for Johnny? Mebbe McCain-Feingold finance reform?

Wonder if Sununu's fired now.

Or (0.00 / 0)
do you think someone who pals around with terrorists would make a good President?

Beachcombings Jewelry

[ Parent ]
Yes (0.00 / 0)
Ask McCain why he violated the law he wrote.

[ Parent ]
I don't recall (4.00 / 4)
"get UN approval" as one of the lines in "bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran..."

Wonder if Sununu's fired now.

that troll rating (4.00 / 1)
was supposed to be an excellent, Dean. I should wear my glasses once in a while.  

Netroots Outreach Director for the Carol Shea-Porter campaign

[ Parent ]
No worries. (0.00 / 0)
I do it all the time.  I think you can change it whenever you like, btw.

Wonder if Sununu's fired now.

[ Parent ]
McCain makes me laugh (4.00 / 2)
every time he says "League of Democracies."

Wonder if Sununu's fired now.

The League of Extraordinary Democracies again n/t (4.00 / 3)


Without preconditions (0.00 / 0)
Does it equal to the number of 'my friends' so far?

-Nilya

We are the giant. Let's work hard for Obama, Lynch, Shaheen, Hodes, Shea-Porter and all Dems.
No Regrets.  


not sure (0.00 / 0)
Nilya, I've only been counting the "my friends". He's up to 17.  

Netroots Outreach Director for the Carol Shea-Porter campaign

[ Parent ]
time for post prandials n/t (0.00 / 0)


Without deviation from the norm, 'progress' is not possible.
~Frank Zappa


[ Parent ]
Peggy from Amherst NH n/t (0.00 / 0)


Wonder if Sununu's fired now.

If you do what you you've allways done (0.00 / 0)
you'll get what you've always gotten

Hope > Fear

no (0.00 / 0)
we've learned from the market, if you do what you've always doen, things get worse.

Without deviation from the norm, 'progress' is not possible.
~Frank Zappa


[ Parent ]
Exceptionally well concluded, sir (4.00 / 1)
Now McCain just sounds like he's copying Obama.

I was wondering when he was going (0.00 / 0)
to lean on the POW stuff.

Wonder if Sununu's fired now.

he hates to talk (0.00 / 0)
about being a POW.  

Netroots Outreach Director for the Carol Shea-Porter campaign

[ Parent ]
Can't belive he is calling himself (0.00 / 0)
a steady hand on the tiller

Hope > Fear

It harks of (0.00 / 0)
stay the course. Yikes!

[ Parent ]
The dog that didn't bark (4.00 / 3)
No fresh prince of Bill Ayres.

What was with... (0.00 / 0)
McCain calling Obama "that one"?  Very odd.

Energy and persistence conquer all things.

Benjamin Franklin

I'm a strategist for the NH Coordinated Campaign


McCain seethes (0.00 / 0)
with contempt for Obama.  

Netroots Outreach Director for the Carol Shea-Porter campaign

[ Parent ]
"the other " (0.00 / 0)
like you calling Jack Mr. ?

Without deviation from the norm, 'progress' is not possible.
~Frank Zappa


[ Parent ]
we've just seen John McCain go tilt (4.00 / 1)
Not only odd but rude as all hell.

"I'm not smart enough to run the economy."

- John McCain (r) Arizona


[ Parent ]
Why must McCain always get the last word? (4.00 / 1)
And why do time constraints only apply to Obama?

And does it really make sense to talk about steady hands when your opponent is slamming you for being the most erratic Presidential candidate in recent memory?

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Preconditions (0.00 / 0)
I wanted Obama to say this:

Senator McCain thinks we should have preconditions for meeting with hostile nations. However, I believe the fact that we are the United States of America constitutes a precondition.



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